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I can't see how this partnership is not acceptable. Firefox is an NGO for the open web not one for human rights.
Without getting involved in the whole Foxconn debate: would you take the same stance on anyone partnering with Nazis, the KKK, terrorist organisations, the apartheid, etc. based on "they are not a human rights organisation, so it's not relevant"?
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Without getting involved in the whole Foxconn debate: would you take the same stance on anyone partnering with Nazis, the KKK, terrorist organisations, the apartheid, etc. based on "they are not a human rights organisation, so it's not relevant"?
Why not? A doctor should refuse a patient because is a terrorist, a racist or a killer?
On a personal level, many people chose their friends/acquaintances based on these sorts of things. On a consumer level, there are many examples of popular boycotts (for example see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Apartheid_Movement ). On a company level, many companies consider things such as environmental or social duties when deciding who to do business with.
In all cases, it could be because you hope that such a decision will cause change (e.g. organised/promoted boycotts) or it could be simply that you don't want to support something bad, even if knowing that refusing to spend $1 on some Nestlé chocolate (for example) probably won't change a thing.
I very strongly want this to work. I am very excited about the prospect of a phone/tablet OS that I hack up apps for in Javascript. But even more than that I pray for a true competitor to iOSX/Android. They just need to get this thing moving. I am planning to buy a tablet this Christmas and I want FFOS to be a very good choice by then. Come on Mozilla.
Microsoft pursued a strategy that enabled people to make web apps in HTML5/Javascript as first class apps in Windows 8. Why is it not being adopted/praised as much as Firefox OS is? Is it because it's Microsoft? Is it because the Win8 HTML5/JS apps are more closed-system-esque than Firefox OS apps will be?
A lot of people denounce Windows because of its lack of app ecosystem. Does everyone think that Firefox OS will have a better chance at solving this problem and thus deserves praise for creating an ecosystem exclusively for web-based apps?
I very strongly want this to work. I am very excited about the prospect of a phone/tablet OS that I hack up apps for in Javascript. But even more than that I pray for a true competitor to iOSX/Android. They just need to get this thing moving. I am planning to buy a tablet this Christmas and I want FFOS to be a very good choice by then. Come on Mozilla.
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Why not? A doctor should refuse a patient because is a terrorist, a racist or a killer?
Doctors are generally held to, and hold themselves to, a different standard to others when it comes to dealing with bad people. (And obviously "bad" is subjective here.) On a personal level, many people chose their friends/acquaintances based on these sorts of things. On a consumer level, there are many examples of popular boycotts (for example see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott or http://en.wikiped…
Nobody fight for everything, choose a niche and fight for that.
I very strongly want this to work. I am very excited about the prospect of a phone/tablet OS that I hack up apps for in Javascript. But even more than that I pray for a true competitor to iOSX/Android. They just need to get this thing moving. I am planning to buy a tablet this Christmas and I want FFOS to be a very good choice by then. Come on Mozilla.
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Doctors are generally held to, and hold themselves to, a different standard to others when it comes to dealing with bad people. (And obviously "bad" is subjective here.) On a personal level, many people chose their friends/acquaintances based on these sorts of things. On a consumer level, there are many examples of popular boycotts (for example see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott or http://en.wikiped…
Yes, and Mozilla choose to fight for the freedom of the web not for human rights. Amnesty international for people rigths and not for dophin right. Greenpeace for the environment and not for the freedom of the software. Nobody fight for everything, choose a niche and fight for that.
My point is that just because human rights is not their goal, it doesn't mean it can't be a consideration. And if Foxconn, rather than being a company with a somewhat poor track record regarding its staff, was a company known for funding terrorism, arms sales, etc. then I don't think anyone would be arguing that people shouldn't do business with them.
I very strongly want this to work. I am very excited about the prospect of a phone/tablet OS that I hack up apps for in Javascript. But even more than that I pray for a true competitor to iOSX/Android. They just need to get this thing moving. I am planning to buy a tablet this Christmas and I want FFOS to be a very good choice by then. Come on Mozilla.
This might be a black sheep type of question in a thread like this but here goes. Microsoft pursued a strategy that enabled people to make web apps in HTML5/Javascript as first class apps in Windows 8. Why is it not being adopted/praised as much as Firefox OS is? Is it because it's Microsoft? Is it because the Win8 HTML5/JS apps are more closed-system-esque than Firefox OS apps will be? A lot of people denounce Windo…
I agree that this pretty much seems like another Windows Phone, that won't really make huge competition for iOS or Android devices. I hope I'm wrong though because I hate Java.
I very strongly want this to work. I am very excited about the prospect of a phone/tablet OS that I hack up apps for in Javascript. But even more than that I pray for a true competitor to iOSX/Android. They just need to get this thing moving. I am planning to buy a tablet this Christmas and I want FFOS to be a very good choice by then. Come on Mozilla.
I too want to see this work, but I'm worried about Google's response. What if this takes off? Seeing as how right now, how much of Mozilla's revenue comes from Google, if Firefox OS takes off I would think it needs to take off hard in the case that Google decides to maneuver against them by toying with their main artery that is Firefox's default search engine. I don't know.