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The Facebook experiment has failed

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Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by alphang »

graue wrote: post #35

People really just don't seem to understand that experiences with social media are specific to the individual. I guess it's understandable. I see the same Google Maps as everyone else does. I see the same Hacker News as everyone else who visits HN. But Facebook isn't like that. Your Facebook timeline is based entirely on your friends and how you interact with Facebook. And so, every few weeks it seems, we get these p…

I agree that his piece isn't well-researched, and the title is sensationalist, but I share most of his experiences and sentiments. I hope a more quantitative research around this area does emerge though.

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by thenomad »

ianstormtaylor wrote: post #48
graue wrote: post #35

People really just don't seem to understand that experiences with social media are specific to the individual. I guess it's understandable. I see the same Google Maps as everyone else does. I see the same Hacker News as everyone else who visits HN. But Facebook isn't like that. Your Facebook timeline is based entirely on your friends and how you interact with Facebook. And so, every few weeks it seems, we get these p…

Completely agree. Most every point he makes doesn't apply to my use of Facebook. The one that is interesting is his comparison to Google and SEO. In Google's world there are three players: (1) the searchers, (2) the advertisers and (3) the black hats who try to game the system. Unfortunately for Facebook, (2) and (3) are the same, so the people they make money from are also the people who are degrading the system. Th…

Also the content creators on whose sites ads are placed (and to whose sites the search results point), surely?

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by [deleted] »

hoopla2013 wrote: post #61
beatpanda wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean this personally either, but I think anyone who believes using the word "privileged" is "out-of-touch" probably needs to get more in touch with levels of society outside their own.

For sure- I hear that it's difficult to write what I wrote without sounding like a snobby d-bag- I just hate that phrase, the language & syntax of it (usually because it is abused so often by well-intentioned grad students) To be clear, I don't dispute the idea for one second that there are some ppl in US that no matter what they do or how hard they try it will be exceedingly difficult for them to get ahead. I also h…

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Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by DocG »

After MSN went bad with WLM and Skype(its awful, online list seems to be random), it is last place where most people talk. And it is mainly used as messenger/email hybrid platform. Around my friends, it is main reason why we are still there...

So I kinda agree. Almost no stories what pick my intrest. Only win-to-share post and not relevant post.

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by dagw »

taproot wrote: post #85
hkmurakami wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a heavy FB user, but having lived in various places around the world, it's one of the few ways I can passively keep in touch with what my dear friends have been up to half way around the globe. That is real value that Facebook does deliver, something I must admit despite my wide ranged mistrust and distaste for various other aspects of the service.

And that thin veil is held together by its complicated breakups, baby pictures and cat memes. If it wasnt that everyone enjoyed sharing these things id hate to think what might happen. Im in the same boat as you here. And it worries me. Imagine if we had to go back to the old days of using msn status updates and actually having to gasp converse with one another in order to get our fill of socal interaction.

I get maybe 1 baby picture pr 50-100 message and even less cat memes. Don't think I've seen a single complicated breakup.

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by bobsy »

The ideal facebook for me would let me explicitly set a threshold before things become visible.

So.. I would create 3 groups. Family, Friends, Acquaintances.

Family + Friends status's would always appear. Acquaintances status updates would require 5 likes by other people before they appeared in my stream.

All likes from Acquaintances and Friends would be hidden.

All app invites from Acquaintances would be hidden.

As for companies I like / follow. Individual controls for each would be great.

I hardly use Facebook because of the noise. I only have < 60 friends on Facebook and < 10 likes. I can't imagine what it gets like with hundreds of friends. My idea probably wouldn't scale. Would be neat though. Would actually get me using Facebook.

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by StavrosK »

nostromo wrote: post #51

Lately I've noticed something odd. When I find a story I find interesting, I email it to some of my closest friends and we talk about it in email. It feels very 2003, but it works and feels more private and intimate. Similarly, when I take a picture I want to share with my family, I sms it to them. Facebook is still great, but it's different than what it used to be. It's (for me) evolved into my less-close friends' v…

I built an app specifically to make this easier: http://www.yourpane.com/

You click the bookmarklet, pick friends and it sends the current page.

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by bigiain »

lostlogin wrote: post #107
weavie wrote: post #79

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Likewise. So much for people saying email is broken and outdated. It's the one medium I've been using for 20 years now and keep coming back to.

If people didn't abuse the reply all button I might be able to come to terms with email usage. Reply all button abuse makes email almost Facebook bad for me.

Seems to me that perhaps "reply all abuse" is indicative of poorly chosen recipient lists.

(Which doesn't help if it wasn't you who sent the original mail…)

Re: The Facebook experiment has failed

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Post by lostlogin »

bigiain wrote: post #119
lostlogin wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people didn't abuse the reply all button I might be able to come to terms with email usage. Reply all button abuse makes email almost Facebook bad for me.

Seems to me that perhaps "reply all abuse" is indicative of poorly chosen recipient lists. (Which doesn't help if it wasn't you who sent the original mail…)

Yeah, I'm a recipient. Professional body that has god knows how many members who use the reply all to ask each other for coffee. I tried binning their emails but that caused havoc with bills/body requirements. It's awful.
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