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Erdogan says social media 'danger to society'

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Re: Erdogan says social media 'danger to society'

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Anyone care to say why he's wrong? I'd like a bit more elaboration from his argument, but it's possible that he's right.

I somehow don't think he was referring to Facebook addiction and social alienation resulting from "virtual friends", which is about the only time I would agree with someone who says social media is "hurting society".

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For some definitions of "society", he's not wrong. The wrong is in wanting one such kind of society for his country.

The wrong is in wanting one such kind of society for his country. Who decides that it's wrong or right?

Let's bash your head in.

Would that be wrong?

Who's to decide? You? You'll have a bashed-in head soon enough; people whose heads no longer contain neural matter don't have opinions. Does your necessarily brief opposition really count?

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This is very easy to say. Politicians are just reflections of who we all are. And imho they have the hardest jobs on the planet today. There isn't a course on Khan Academy, that they can take, which tells them what to do when uncontrolled chain reactions are set off by Social networks. The results will always be messy. And to then say if they just did the "right thing" all will be well, isn't being very realistic. Wh…

I'm sorry, but this is naive and idealistic. Politicians don't work hard and they never will, don't get fooled by the Media. Just because one travels a lot doesn't mean he/she doesn't have enough sleep or that he/she works very hard. It's the opposite!!11 They use your tax money to buy stuff for them and their family. They hire their relatives for "ghost-jobs" and double their salary within the law that they signed t…

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What is this? The Isreal bash Turkey thread?

Whenever two factions within a Muslim state clash, one or both will eventually accuse the other of being Israeli stooges. The same charge is also commonly levelled at any external criticism of a Muslim state or faction. It's the Muslim world's equivalent of Godwin's Law.

To be fair, someone did post a link to ynetnews, an Israeli news website which appears to have a rather pro-Israeli-government slant with all that entails. (It was quite entertaining when Turkey got a new government that was no longer friendly to Israel and suddenly all the Israeli politicians and news websites went from pretending the Armenian genocide didn't exist to making a big fuss about it.)

Re: Erdogan says social media 'danger to society'

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This is very easy to say. Politicians are just reflections of who we all are. And imho they have the hardest jobs on the planet today. There isn't a course on Khan Academy, that they can take, which tells them what to do when uncontrolled chain reactions are set off by Social networks. The results will always be messy. And to then say if they just did the "right thing" all will be well, isn't being very realistic. Wh…

I'm sorry, but this is naive and idealistic. Politicians don't work hard and they never will, don't get fooled by the Media. Just because one travels a lot doesn't mean he/she doesn't have enough sleep or that he/she works very hard. It's the opposite!!11 They use your tax money to buy stuff for them and their family. They hire their relatives for "ghost-jobs" and double their salary within the law that they signed t…

Have you managed a team of people?

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Sadly, when there is internet connection, the problem doesn't simply go away. In Russia, internet media are heavily censored too - so internet user has to make effort to obtain the information not biased in favour of Putin's government: there are only several "unbiased" regular online media(not counting social media like big social networks like facebook or twitter). It is much simpler to just turn on TV especially i…

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2012/03/06/on-fairness/

If some guy is bad it doesn't automatically makes Putin good. If democracy in other countries is not a real democracy, it doesn't make Putin a democratic president instead of bloody dictator.

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Upvote!!11 :) Politicians brought the world corruption, violence, massmurder, genocide and they kill our Earth. It will end with us or them, but it needs an end.

There is substantial evidence that the rate of human violence has decreased dramatically over the course of human history. Two of the biggest turning points were the rise of the nation-state and the spread of democracy. Yes, individual politicians are often corrupt, violent or plain stupid and the political system has serious issues but politicians as a whole have been a boon to civilized society. http://www.amazon.c…

States killed around 200 million people in 20th century. Does your statistics on violence include these victims?

Re: Erdogan says social media 'danger to society'

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This is very easy to say. Politicians are just reflections of who we all are. And imho they have the hardest jobs on the planet today. There isn't a course on Khan Academy, that they can take, which tells them what to do when uncontrolled chain reactions are set off by Social networks. The results will always be messy. And to then say if they just did the "right thing" all will be well, isn't being very realistic. Wh…

Well, yes and no. It must true that they are the reflections of the society but this is no reason for them to become populists and sway away from their actual job: Protecting the rights of the people, regardless of their vote, religion or anything that can be used to discriminate them. Yes there are always some people who become evil with their jobs but the percentage of wrongdoers among the politicians tends to be m…

> this is no reason for them to become populists and sway away from their actual job

Protecting rights is not as easy as just giving a speech or writing a blog post. It is about engaging with the other side (not just calling them idiots). It is about building social capital. Over decades. So that when the time comes, to take a stand on something, you can cash it in even it is highly unpopular. That is the power great leaders have had throughout history and you cannot accumulate it(nonviolently) without being populist.

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This is very easy to say. Politicians are just reflections of who we all are. And imho they have the hardest jobs on the planet today. There isn't a course on Khan Academy, that they can take, which tells them what to do when uncontrolled chain reactions are set off by Social networks. The results will always be messy. And to then say if they just did the "right thing" all will be well, isn't being very realistic. Wh…

"And imho they have the hardest jobs on the planet today." Seriously? Please watch a bit George Carlin...

I love George Carlin. Doesn't change my opinion.
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