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http://www.quora.com/Istanbul/What-is-happening-at-Gezi-Park... Append "?share=1", and the dumbass registration wall goes away.
System hacking detected! Querystrings are our last defense!
I imagine it's something friends, VCs, and the tech press were told about, but the rest of us aren't supposed to use.
"There is now a menace which is called Twitter," Erdogan
said. "The best examples of lies can be found there. To me,
social media is the worst menace to society."
"These people are my friends. They are my students, my relatives. They have no «hidden agenda» as the state likes to say. Their agenda is out there. It is very clear. The whole country is being sold to corporations by the government, for the construction of malls, luxury condominiums, freeways, dams and nuclear plants. The government is looking for (and creating when necessary) any excuse to attack Syria against its…
Well said. I'm a techie but I also have a protest past (don't actively engage in that anymore but support in other ways) and I wasn't aware of the situation in Singapore. I think we saw a lot of this in the US after 9/11 when Bush went from being a 1-term joke to suddenly having clout. What many younger people here might not know is that only 12 years ago, life in the US was different. You could board planes without…
I agree we did overreact, but this sentence is just nonsense. Are you really implying that our actions and policies are what caused muslims to hate us, and that therefor we should change them???????????
> The government is looking for (and creating when necessary) any excuse to attack Syria against its people’s will. Wait, I thought Syria/Assad is the bad guy. The Turkish people support Assad but the Turkish government doesn't? Now I'm confused.
Turkey people haven't support Assad or the groups against to him. Turkey folks always supported helping to syrian refugee, thats all. As folk wanted, Turkey government helping the syrian refugee while supported the groups againist to Assad. The supporting groups goverment's initiative.
The problem of the Turkey is between folk and government. Its not unfixable, we'd like to government's support even small groups like gay's, homeless people, women rights. We don't want despot behaviours form cops to folk. Basicly the protests are about small problems, to be have better democracy, as well as better even some part of europe/usa.
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> The government is looking for (and creating when necessary) any excuse to attack Syria against its people’s will. Wait, I thought Syria/Assad is the bad guy. The Turkish people support Assad but the Turkish government doesn't? Now I'm confused.
And the "people" don't always support things that a western person would agree with. People always assume that if there is a popular revolt it would always be in the direction of democracy and secularism - it's not so at all.
Don't support a popular revolt just because it's by the populace. Support it if you think it's right. And if you don't understand the situation then reserve judgment.
"These people are my friends. They are my students, my relatives. They have no «hidden agenda» as the state likes to say. Their agenda is out there. It is very clear. The whole country is being sold to corporations by the government, for the construction of malls, luxury condominiums, freeways, dams and nuclear plants. The government is looking for (and creating when necessary) any excuse to attack Syria against its…
Well said. I'm a techie but I also have a protest past (don't actively engage in that anymore but support in other ways) and I wasn't aware of the situation in Singapore. I think we saw a lot of this in the US after 9/11 when Bush went from being a 1-term joke to suddenly having clout. What many younger people here might not know is that only 12 years ago, life in the US was different. You could board planes without…
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Spoken like a true majority. my bet of the little i worked on politics is that someone have campaign money, got the park land in return. I highly doubt there was much calls for discussion on the mater. This happened in Germany some time ago. The plebiscity for demolishing the park was voted against twice, then they came up with a third voting in the middle of a holiday, with 8h of warning or something similar. When t…
> This happened in Germany some time ago. I don’t know to which event exactly you’re referring, but I can assure you that > 8h of warning or something similar. this is most certainly false. Could you elaborate a bit?
But there is a documentary about it... fairly recent one, I just can't find it knowing only that it was a park in Germany.
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I'd find Agent Orange hard to believe, given that it did a bit more than deforestation in Vietnam. The Redditor describes it as "a derivative of the Vietnam era deforestation chemical Agent Orange. It is incredibly toxic and forbidden by the UN after the horrific effects it had on both the Vietnamese and Americans exposed to it.", but derived from could mean anything really. I'd find it hard to believe that anything…
my memory is a bit hazy but wasn't the most dangerous part of agent orange the fact that it was contaminated with very toxic dioxins rather than the toxic properties of 'clean' agent orange? Why would Turkey resort to chemical warfare when they don't have to, why risk the wrath of the international community when you can 'just' use tear gas and such?
> > It is incredibly toxic and forbidden by the UN after the horrific effects it had on both the Vietnamese and Americans exposed to it.
It's not forbidden by the UN, the active ingredient is 2,4-D and is the 3rd most used herbicide in america.
The other ingredient 2,4,5-T is non toxic, but making it commonly contaminates it with the very toxic 2,3,7,8.
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I have absolutely no problems with people protesting, I have a problem with ‘protesters’ forcing their opinion on the rest by use of passive (standing in front of a bulldozer) or active (undermining a railroad track carrying nuclear waste containers) violence. And yes, if ACTA protests had cut other people’s telecom lines to the US or some such thing, I would have called them anti-democratic, too. To me, a decent soc…
No problem with people protesting so long as they do so where you never have to bother with them, eh? You seem to labor under the false belief that simply because something is voted upon, it is infallibly a correct decision. Not every law, resolution and ordinance passed is actually good for all the persons it effects. Laws can be extremely adverse for sections of the public, but pass anyways due to disregard or acti…
And you seem to labor under the false belief that simply because someone protested something, it is infallibly a correct decision.
