Need more info on this 200k bracket please!
Poll: Full-time software engineers in London, what's your annual salary?
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Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in London, what's your annual salary?
#252It Jobs Watch scans job postings for London
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#253./spark 18 28 65 73 33 39 28 10 10 7 1 6 2 3 7 3 2 1 3 34
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^ 40k-49k
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I am from Europe but have friends in Ukraine.. Ukraine is in Europe.
Maybe geographically, but it's not in the EU and nobody in/from Europe or the Ukraine would ever say it's in Europe. Just like Russia is also geographically (at least in part) in Europe, but it's by no means European. Google (or books) are your friend :)
I'm from Europe and I would.
In my experience it's only people from the US and possible the UK and/or Scandinavia that only think "Western Europe" when they say "Europe".
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I did two years of computer science, then quit. I use very little of what I learnt, and the personal development (no pun intended) outside of what I was taught at university has been far more important to my career. If money is your goal, knowing how to sell yourself (in job applications and interviews) is very important. For job security and progression in general, people skills are essential . My advice? Don't both…
Could you please refer to any good sources or books that you've worked through for people skills ? Thanks!
How to win friends and influence people - Dale Carnegie. I found this book quite brilliant.
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The rest of the UK seems much worse.
It's not as bad as you think. The number of applicants is lower per position outside London and the ratio of muppets to positions is higher. If you're not a muppet, it's quite easy to land 50k+ in any major city.
Not many advertised positions here in Leeds pay 50k. Senior roles seem to top out at 45k.
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not as bad as you think. The number of applicants is lower per position outside London and the ratio of muppets to positions is higher. If you're not a muppet, it's quite easy to land 50k+ in any major city.
Not many advertised positions here in Leeds pay 50k. Senior roles seem to top out at 45k.
Look at large I.T service companies, e.g Accenture. They don't tend to advertise much, and you have to apply directly via their websites.
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#258Looks like my plan for eventually moving to London and earning a £100k whilst commuting in my 911 are out of the window. How hard is it for a UK programmer to find work (not telecommute) in the US?
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#259Having read all comments, I'm somewhat lost. I was hired in London in 2008 on £37K, it was my first programming job after uni, I had clean resume. Today a competent beginner with a few web projects under his belt easily gets around £45K.
I'm hiring developers for my startup – http://www.makersacademy.com – and I wish I had more applicants. I'm happy to pay £350-450/day for a decent Ruby dev and or around £60K permanent for the same position and I don't get nearly as many candidates as I'd like to. I was hiring devs at Forward Labs (http://www.forwardlabs.co.uk), arguably one of the coolest places in London, and I had the same problems: small number of applicants, qualified candidates asking for £400-£450 or equivalent.
At SiliconmilkRoundabout, the biggest startup job fair in London, dozens of startups are fighting to find a developer, many of them happy to pay more than £40K or £50K. From what I can tell based on my experience and what other entrepreneurs/recruiters are telling me, hiring devs is incredibly hard not because the companies are unwilling to pay but simply because there are not enough devs looking for work.
Occasionally I interview candidates that don't know the basics of software development, e.g. what mocking is or how to use TDD but they are asking for £400+/day because someone is going to pay that.
The data by Adzuna (http://blog.makersacademy.com/what-is-the-demand-for-ruby-de...) shows that the average Ruby salary is over £50K, and top 30% make over £60K. How is that compatible with the results of this poll?
How is it possible that there are so many complaints about low salaries in the comments, while at the same time my experience hiring Ruby devs suggests the low salary isn't a problem at all?
If you're one of those devs who voted £30-39K or £40-49K above and know how to use Ruby/JS at a decent level, drop me a line, I'll have a much better offer for you: evgeny@makersacademy.com.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I am from Europe but have friends in Ukraine.. Ukraine is in Europe.
Geographically yes, but politically and culturally the line gets a little blurry. I think parent meant to say "I am from the European Union".
Politically and culturally Ukraine is in Europe. I'm polish, visited Ukraine several times, love the people (we're very similar nations) and I think that it has a great potential. I hope it joins EU some day in the future.