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Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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#221

Holy crap. I am student in the UK, recently did a internship at a fairly well known company. Got paid £16k for that year. If I were to get a full time job, it would be around ~30k a year. These figures are insane, people have told me in person this is what the figures are really like in SF but wow. I think applying for a couple of jobs in SF etc just for kicks will be one of goals when I finish uni. I know the term W…

San Francisco isn't the only place in the US that makes software, you know. Seattle is a great place to live, has better salaries than SF considering cost of living, and has a healthy startup culture.

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How? This always confused me. That's approaching the poverty line here in the U.S. For example: a standard McDonald's employee makes roughly $24,000 per year. This requires no education and just about anyone can do the work. It's also considered one of the lowest level jobs a person can get. I'm not degrading those people I'm just speaking on the status quo. Now take a look at a manager at McDonalds. They're approach…

I dont think you've accounted for the exchange rate. £26,000 is approx. $40,000.

It depends on cost of living. What is a McDonald's (or similar) manager paid in London?

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Interesting. Would you mind revealing your level?

Above Sr. SWE my impression is that the level is less tightly coupled to compensation. There are probably some Staff Engineers getting paid more than some Sr. Staff, and so on. A lot more will depend on how many rounds of equity refresh you have under your belt, whether you've done something that's saved the company millions or helped the bottom line of the company millions; and of course, if you were formerly at ano…

The problem with that is, the unsexy non-customer facing projects that allow for saving/making millions are not recognized, or at least a monetary value cannot be established for them, and become understaffed, which leads to inefficiencies. To get to the big bucks, you really have to look out for #1 and join the sexy groups. Which is partly why you see things like reader die: reader does not a bonus/promotion make. You gotta be churning out new stuff at minimum, hopefully on sexy new products, maintenance of the old stuff is less sexy and doesn't give you the promotion/bonus. Of course you can reimplement a cache server every 6 months, if all else fails.

Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

#224

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How? This always confused me. That's approaching the poverty line here in the U.S. For example: a standard McDonald's employee makes roughly $24,000 per year. This requires no education and just about anyone can do the work. It's also considered one of the lowest level jobs a person can get. I'm not degrading those people I'm just speaking on the status quo. Now take a look at a manager at McDonalds. They're approach…

I dont think you've accounted for the exchange rate. £26,000 is approx. $40,000.

Not quite (£39473.20). But I get what you mean. Still 40k a year for a software developer? Even double that is considered low here in the U.S.

Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

#225

As always, voluntary response data are worthless. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5538059 Good luck to all of you looking for higher salaries. I hope you gain the salary you desire, and more knowledge of statistics along the way.

"all of you looking for higher salaries"

I would add also that a higher salary which is not sustainable for some reason and results in a lifestyle that you can't support (once you lose that salary) can be quite a problem. Not to mention the psychological impact of thinking you are a 250k a year person and having to drop to being an 80k a year person.

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They don't have money to throw around. Probably would have given you meaningful (lifechanging?) equity tho.

"Lifechanging" only if you win the startup lottery. 95% of YC startups fail.

99.9%+ won't even make you a millionaire. Be a founder or VC instead.

Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?

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post #225

As always, voluntary response data are worthless. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5538059 Good luck to all of you looking for higher salaries. I hope you gain the salary you desire, and more knowledge of statistics along the way.

"all of you looking for higher salaries" I would add also that a higher salary which is not sustainable for some reason and results in a lifestyle that you can't support (once you lose that salary) can be quite a problem. Not to mention the psychological impact of thinking you are a 250k a year person and having to drop to being an 80k a year person.

A higher salary cannot result in a lifestyle you can't support. That requires two things: more money, and the decision to spend more money just because you have it.

The psychological impact is quite real; I've ridden that yo-yo a couple times already.

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post #152

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because h1b visas require you to stay employed (you have like 30 days before they deport you) and they require you to keep the same job title throughout the whole greencard process or your waiting period starts over.

So if you were to get a promotion at your current job, the entire process would essentially start over? Why is that?

no it won't. According to my understanding this is what happens

a) if you have applied for 485 and it has been 6 months since you applied you invoke AC21 and you are done.

b) if you have not applied for 485, your new company will have to reapply for 1-140 and labor for the new position but you do not lose your place in the queue as your PD is ported from your previous application.

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