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Europe's Record Youth Unemployment

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Re: Europe's Record Youth Unemployment

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This is scary, yes. But there's more to any unemployment story than just the stats.

What are the prospects of an unemployed young person getting a job at any point in the future, even when the economy recovers? Is there a strong bias towards new grads, that would lead to a "lost generation" that permanently suffers in the job market? How does society look on the unemployed? Do they look at them with sympathy or scorn?

Lastly, how do the young unemployed feel? Are they angry? Are they carefree? Or are they filled with despair and hopelessness?

Re: Europe's Record Youth Unemployment

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post #2

Interesting, how Germany decoupled itself from the rest of Europe in this graph.

It seems like it should be possible to run some economic analysis, at least at a high level, based on this type of data and the actions of the countries involved.

I also wonder if Europe has higher unemployment due to a lower frequency of "at will" employment. Hiring someone seems to be a much greater consideration in countries where it's difficult to let someone go. Poor performers are likely to stick around longer and impact the team much more.

Would employment be lower if at-will employment were more commonplace and lawful in Europe?

Re: Europe's Record Youth Unemployment

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post #2

Interesting, how Germany decoupled itself from the rest of Europe in this graph.

It is. I think the reasons for it are pretty simple: They didn't experience a huge housing bubble (like Spain) They don't have a big productivity problem (like Greece) Their government's finances weren't totally unsustainable (like Spain or Greece) They don't depend a great deal on tourism (like Greece). No one seems to want to go on vacation to a rioting and unstable country. Hopefully things will improve for those…

The issue with Spain lies is the (private) banks, not government finances. Unlike Greece, where the government needs to get bailed out, in Spain it is the banks that are in trouble.

Re: Europe's Record Youth Unemployment

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This is scary, yes. But there's more to any unemployment story than just the stats. What are the prospects of an unemployed young person getting a job at any point in the future, even when the economy recovers? Is there a strong bias towards new grads, that would lead to a "lost generation" that permanently suffers in the job market? How does society look on the unemployed? Do they look at them with sympathy or scorn…

How are they making a living and otherwise providing for themselves? (Serious question.)

Is homelessness also skyrocketing, or do the unemployed receive benefits of some kind?

Re: Europe's Record Youth Unemployment

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post #17

This is scary, yes. But there's more to any unemployment story than just the stats. What are the prospects of an unemployed young person getting a job at any point in the future, even when the economy recovers? Is there a strong bias towards new grads, that would lead to a "lost generation" that permanently suffers in the job market? How does society look on the unemployed? Do they look at them with sympathy or scorn…

How are they making a living and otherwise providing for themselves? (Serious question.) Is homelessness also skyrocketing, or do the unemployed receive benefits of some kind?

They live with their parents.

Re: Europe's Record Youth Unemployment

#19
It would be great if the US government provided an expedited Visa program for college-educated foreign nationals who have received a job offer from a company in the US. There is H1B, but that applies to specialty occupations. (I'm not an immigration expert - perhaps this already exists and I don't know about it?)

How many people from those countries immigrate to the US or wish to? If they're willing to work, and a company here has offered them a job, I say bring them over!

  Give me your tired, your poor,
  Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;
  The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
  Send these, the homeless,
  Tempest-tossed to me
  I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
(I do get the impression that Google, Microsoft, Amazon, etc. can hire the candidates they want, but is that true for smaller companies as well?)

The article mentioned that about 30% are college educated. It would be interesting to look at a breakdown of degrees. For example, many Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics graduates are highly sought after in industry. Additionally, are the degrees reputable from an international perspective and in fields suitable by commerce and industry?

Re: Europe's Record Youth Unemployment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is. I think the reasons for it are pretty simple: They didn't experience a huge housing bubble (like Spain) They don't have a big productivity problem (like Greece) Their government's finances weren't totally unsustainable (like Spain or Greece) They don't depend a great deal on tourism (like Greece). No one seems to want to go on vacation to a rioting and unstable country. Hopefully things will improve for those…

The issue with Spain lies is the (private) banks, not government finances. Unlike Greece, where the government needs to get bailed out, in Spain it is the banks that are in trouble.

The banks were in trouble in Ireland, and Ireland stood behind them (which destroyed them). The banks in Iceland were in trouble and Iceland walked away from them. Much less pain in Iceland compared to what Ireland is going through.

When in doubt and able, default.

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