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I agree. I love OAuth idea and the single-sign on flow. I love having one source where I can go and see all of the sites that have my info, and I love being able to rescind my account from that central location. However, I hate that Facebook/Twitter take it a step further with all of their social integration features to the point where many apps assume, by default, that you want to share share share everything you do…

I'd rather use one with an exceptionally good security policy (including account recovery), realtime multi-modal notification, customizable settings (i.e. being able to ip/geo restrict, rate limit, etc.), etc. And maybe do groups, too. Google Apps for Your Domain could be kind of like this, but isn't. Probably the closest, though. Maybe someone like Dropbox/Box.Net/AeroFS?

This is basically exactly what I built https://www.persowna.net/ for. It's still in its infancy (as is Mozilla Persona), but that's where I want to take it.

Can I email you to talk about your needs a bit? It sounds like you have some good ideas.

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I'd rather use Mozilla Persona based login systems than OAuth based ones. From both a user and a developer point of view, Persona is a very refreshing approach to identity instead of OAuth. For those wanting to know more about Persona, check out https://login.persona.org/about also since Persona is from Mozilla, you can see all the code and development and you know that privacy and user safety are number one priority…

I'm having trouble finding sites that use Persona as a login option. Does anyone have any examples? Trovebox seems to have a demo site up, but I was not able to actually log in to my account.

And two of mine:

http://www.deadmansswitch.net/account/login/ (click "BrowserID login", my UX isn't great).

http://www.yourpane.com/ (click Persona without entering an email address, my UX isn't great).

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather use one with an exceptionally good security policy (including account recovery), realtime multi-modal notification, customizable settings (i.e. being able to ip/geo restrict, rate limit, etc.), etc. And maybe do groups, too. Google Apps for Your Domain could be kind of like this, but isn't. Probably the closest, though. Maybe someone like Dropbox/Box.Net/AeroFS?

This is basically exactly what I built https://www.persowna.net/ for. It's still in its infancy (as is Mozilla Persona), but that's where I want to take it. Can I email you to talk about your needs a bit? It sounds like you have some good ideas.

sure

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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I'd rather use Mozilla Persona based login systems than OAuth based ones. From both a user and a developer point of view, Persona is a very refreshing approach to identity instead of OAuth. For those wanting to know more about Persona, check out https://login.persona.org/about also since Persona is from Mozilla, you can see all the code and development and you know that privacy and user safety are number one priority…

I'm having trouble finding sites that use Persona as a login option. Does anyone have any examples? Trovebox seems to have a demo site up, but I was not able to actually log in to my account.

Ditto. Why isn't HN supporting persona? :)

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I'd rather use Mozilla Persona based login systems than OAuth based ones. From both a user and a developer point of view, Persona is a very refreshing approach to identity instead of OAuth. For those wanting to know more about Persona, check out https://login.persona.org/about also since Persona is from Mozilla, you can see all the code and development and you know that privacy and user safety are number one priority…

I'm having trouble finding sites that use Persona as a login option. Does anyone have any examples? Trovebox seems to have a demo site up, but I was not able to actually log in to my account.

A few other favorites: http://meta.discourse.org, http://debuggex.com, https://voo.st, and http://sloblog.io

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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My main problem with these (as user) is that I usually have hard time remembering which sign-on system I have used for a particular site. Twitter? Google? Facebook? Username and pass? Amazon?

In most cases what I would truly like to have is a option to order a sign-on link to my email that would be valid for single use and just for some minutes.

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I was shocked to discover this is the canonical URL & domain for the Amazon press releases. After I clicked the link and saw the URL I initially thought this was some bizarre phishing scheme. That being said, I think this is a great idea. I don't love the Facebook OAuth flow and the amount of access most apps ask for. I have trouble taking Twitter seriously as an OAuth provider [bias much?]. I think there are many US…

If you have trouble with Facebook and Twitter, how is Amazon/Google better? They all have great engineering teams, but they also all make money on data mining – not the best feature of a login provider (2013-05-30: jrandomhacker successfully logged in to PersistentGenitalArousalDisorder.com … let's show some relevant ads next time his in-laws are near the computer).

I'd stick with Mozilla Persona.

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I'm having trouble finding sites that use Persona as a login option. Does anyone have any examples? Trovebox seems to have a demo site up, but I was not able to actually log in to my account.

Ditto. Why isn't HN supporting persona? :)

I wish HN would use persona!

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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I agree. I love OAuth idea and the single-sign on flow. I love having one source where I can go and see all of the sites that have my info, and I love being able to rescind my account from that central location. However, I hate that Facebook/Twitter take it a step further with all of their social integration features to the point where many apps assume, by default, that you want to share share share everything you do…

I though persona by Mozilla was basically this.

I thought Persona was an _idea_. I personally haven't seen a single Persona login in the wild.
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