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Re: A new Gmail inbox

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These comments are pretty sad. I know we feel the need to comment on everything right away these days, but honestly there isn't much to say about this feature until we've actually used it. HN almost universally believes in execution over the idea, yet here we are trashing an idea before seeing the execution. It's great that Gmail is trying to innovate and improve the email experience. Maybe this feature won't work ou…

Knee-jerk reactions are a big problem on this site. Perhaps there should be a delay between a story posting and comments being allowed.

Doesn't that mean that we'd still get knee-jerk reactions from people who are latecomers to the article?

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what the Gmail Labs is for: testing features before some of them being released to everyone.

You would hardly know how the typical consumer is going to use/like it from that data though (not that I do not agree that that might be a good idea, maybe they just want to get it out soon).

It's not necessarily about users liking them as much as just getting the features out before as many eyeballs and browser/system combos as possible before introducing them to the whole world.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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post #72

These comments are pretty sad. I know we feel the need to comment on everything right away these days, but honestly there isn't much to say about this feature until we've actually used it. HN almost universally believes in execution over the idea, yet here we are trashing an idea before seeing the execution. It's great that Gmail is trying to innovate and improve the email experience. Maybe this feature won't work ou…

Given how obnoxious the new compose it, it is getting hard to trust them to do the right thing with Gmail.

I much prefer the new Compose, it unobtrusively let me create an email whilst browsing through my history.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Oooh I like this very much, though it looks like I'm not allowed to play with it just yet on my account. Labels and filters solve several Gmail problems but demand too much footwork on my part. I found that my Gmail experience got better when I adopted this credo about two weeks ago: Thou shalt have but one Gmail label, and that label's name shalt be "Needs Reply". Either it can wait, and be there when I specifically…

That's really interesting. You don't even label emails you've archived? I like to chuck "invoice" on everything that represents money changing hands: actual invoices, e-purchase emails (congrats on buying this game / software, here is your key), stuff like that. I also have a few others about specific topics.

In terms of labeling emails that need replies for me if it's still in the inbox if it needs a reply / action. If I'm done with an email I archive it.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

#206
Disclosure: I work at Google and have been dogfooding this on my personal account for a while.

I draw a distinct line between my work e-mail and my personal e-mail. In my work e-mail I have a lot of rules, filters, automatic labels, and use multiple inboxes. I also need to read and deal with most every e-mail I receive. In this inbox I don't (and frankly wouldn't want to) use the new Gmail inbox. Based on many of the threads here on HN, this is the perspective many have in mind.

However, for my personal inbox it's been a godsend. The automatic labeling is highly accurate, and where it's not you can correct it and it learns/adapts. I can live in my "primary" inbox and only venture into the other tabs (social, updates, promotions, forums) only when I want to. I used priority inbox, and this is an improvement on that, in my opinion.

So while I have a bias here, I've really, really enjoyed having this for at least one of my inboxes. :)

Re: A new Gmail inbox

#207
post #72

These comments are pretty sad. I know we feel the need to comment on everything right away these days, but honestly there isn't much to say about this feature until we've actually used it. HN almost universally believes in execution over the idea, yet here we are trashing an idea before seeing the execution. It's great that Gmail is trying to innovate and improve the email experience. Maybe this feature won't work ou…

Given how obnoxious the new compose it, it is getting hard to trust them to do the right thing with Gmail.

I think it's a little unfair to overly judge them over one mistake. Also, I didn't like the original redesign, but they've toned it down since then and brought it back so they do seem to be corrective.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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post #72

These comments are pretty sad. I know we feel the need to comment on everything right away these days, but honestly there isn't much to say about this feature until we've actually used it. HN almost universally believes in execution over the idea, yet here we are trashing an idea before seeing the execution. It's great that Gmail is trying to innovate and improve the email experience. Maybe this feature won't work ou…

Given how obnoxious the new compose it, it is getting hard to trust them to do the right thing with Gmail.

I'm neutral about it, overall. I find the window ridiculously small (or ridiculously big if you maximise it), and I hate the hidden formatting bar - I use formatting a lot, so the extra click to reveal it and then the hassle of it covering content is a pain.

So how about making the window sizeable, and remember the user's preference? And maybe when it's over a certain size the formatting bar gets permanent screen space.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

#209
post #72

These comments are pretty sad. I know we feel the need to comment on everything right away these days, but honestly there isn't much to say about this feature until we've actually used it. HN almost universally believes in execution over the idea, yet here we are trashing an idea before seeing the execution. It's great that Gmail is trying to innovate and improve the email experience. Maybe this feature won't work ou…

Given how obnoxious the new compose it, it is getting hard to trust them to do the right thing with Gmail.

I have two displays, my secondary with my email browser on it is to the right of me. With the new compose, writing emails is confined to the utter right most corner of my work area.

As you might have guessed, I hate the new compose...

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It comes off as something being masked as a "feature," when in actuality it is just something that is trying to get me to spend money. I dunno. Automatically identifying "Promotions" and sending them off to their own tab seems to be good for helping me avoid dealing with things trying to get me to spend money when I don't want to, just the same as doing the same thing for "Spam" does. > It seems like it blurs the l…

I suppose. But the weird aspect here is the prominence of the button. The point of filtering out spam (given the more pleasant name "Promotions" now) is to put it into a place where it won't bother me. Now, they're suggesting I have a big fancy "Promotions" button at the top of my inbox. Why would I want that button there?

> But the weird aspect here is the prominence of the button.

Whichever tabs you choose to have (and if you use the layout, you choose which of the tabs are active) are available as views into your email. This both makes them out-of-the-way when their subject isn't what you want to view, and available when it is.

> The point of filtering out spam (given the more pleasant name "Promotions" now)

Not the same thing: spam (unsolicited commercial email) is still spam. Promotions are for promotions that aren't spam. The reasons why you might not want them in your normal email box are similar, but the probability that you will at some time want to review promotions for more than "did something get here by accident".

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