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Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Judging by their recent change of making GChats part of the Google+ Hangout system I am nervous and skeptical about the changes to GMail.

I tried the new hangout box but I'm not able to figure out how to make calls to landlines from the chatbox anymore. Did you guys have that issue?

Hangouts does not currently support that, but it is on the way. Hopefully it is soon!

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Judging by their recent change of making GChats part of the Google+ Hangout system I am nervous and skeptical about the changes to GMail.

Perhaps you'd be happier going back to AOL or Hotmail? I don't understand the negativity around change. If they never changed, people would complain that they are in a rut, that they don't innovate, etc.

The complaints are not about change in general, but about changes that are simultaneously negative and inescapable. If a new version is better, then great -- but if it is worse and you cannot continue to use the old version, you have every right to complain. I avoid being dependent on web apps for this very reason: I like to be able to downgrade when necessary.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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I hate the new compose. I think the mail UI team need to make a poster that says. "If it's not broken, don't fix it"

You mean the compose that pops up and doesn't open in a new page? 100% agree.

Go to your gmail. Enable keyboard shortcuts. Press "d".

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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post #164

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Judging by their recent change of making GChats part of the Google+ Hangout system I am nervous and skeptical about the changes to GMail.

Perhaps you'd be happier going back to AOL or Hotmail? I don't understand the negativity around change. If they never changed, people would complain that they are in a rut, that they don't innovate, etc.

Just because GMail is still better than AOL or Hotmail doesn't mean I agree with the direction it (and Google as a whole when related to Google+ is concerned) is going in.

To be clear, I would be fairly optimistic for the "new Inbox" if it weren't for the new GChat interface which worsened my user experience to add a feature, Google+ integration, I don't necessarily want.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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You mean the compose that pops up and doesn't open in a new page? 100% agree.

Have you tried ctrl+click?

Does work! Feels unnatural though, opens a pop-up stretched to be displayed full screen.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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I find all these new email products (Sparrow, Mailbox, etc.) interesting on a UI/UX level but they're highly irrelevant to me. I always read about how hard it has become to manage one's inbox, but I really don't have a problem with it. My system is simple: do not sign-up for newsletter or notifications (e.g. Facebook, Twitter, GitHub, etc.) you won't read, unsubscribe anytime you realize you don't read the ones you r…

I have a much simpler solution: filters. If only Google would get off their asses and implement sieve...

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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I'm encouraged that they seem to allow you to toggle this new inbox on/off as you wish. In contrast to the "new" compose box which will eventually be forced onto everyone.

I'm just gonna hijack this thread in case any gmail devs are dropping by. the new compose box is a joke - why would you force users to write emails in a small window in the bottom right corner?!

Have you tried enabling keyboard shortcuts and pressing "d"?

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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> Isn't it more like min(idea, execution)? Its more like idea * execution, where the range for each input (and the output, consequently) is [0,1].

So you think that it's worse than min(idea, execution)?

I do. A mediocre idea (0.5) with a flawless execution (1.0) is probably better than a mediocre idea (0.5) with a mediocre execution (0.5).

Might not be quite so linear though.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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It's almost impossible to /avoid/ getting signed up for a pile of "newsletter" spam. Pretty much everybody that has access to my email address floods me with them.

Any time I get something I don't want I click the unsubscribe link. If the link doesn't work, if there aren't any or if I need to do more than legally necessary (e.g. logging into my account), I click "Report spam" in Gmail. I don't feel bad about clicking it because I trust Gmail as a whole to be smart enough not to penalize an account globally if I'm the only one reporting it. Plus, when I do it, it's because it's…

Personally, I view "mark as spam" as a way for me to cast a vote on bad email behavior. No, I do not want to receive the latest news about your product that I bought 5 years ago -- yes, it is spam when you email me about it. It is spam when you email me asking for money just because I attended your group's meetings a few times in college. It is spam when you send me an email that does not render unless I enable HTML. It is spam when you drop my friends' names in an attempt to get me to sign up for your website.

Spam is not just about scams, malware, and crime. It is about the annoying deluge, the fact that I have to open a browser and enable Javascript from 20 different sources when I unsubscribe, and generally about unsolicited, unwanted email trying to get me to do things I am not going to do. Filters, including a spam filter, are what keep my inbox under control.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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These comments are pretty sad. I know we feel the need to comment on everything right away these days, but honestly there isn't much to say about this feature until we've actually used it. HN almost universally believes in execution over the idea, yet here we are trashing an idea before seeing the execution. It's great that Gmail is trying to innovate and improve the email experience. Maybe this feature won't work ou…

The opposite is true. I don't need to know anything more about this feature to conclude: 1. it's anti-useful for me and 2. while it may be useful for some, it is another clear step toward throwing in the towel on e-mail as a platform for serious discourse. Nor do I agree that execution trumps ideas. Both are necessary and insufficient for success, but execution is far easier to commoditize. Those who can't judge good…

I'm having a hard time understanding what you are arguing towards but I find this thought to be quite elegantly expressed

>"Both [Execution and Ideas] are necessary and insufficient for success..."

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