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How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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Re: How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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> Pre-reqs – If you’re not currently working, and you don’t have competing offers, you’re pretty much out of luck. So task #1 is to make sure you have competition for your talents. Otherwise, you might be able to ask for something small around the margins (eg help with relocation expenses), but you’re not in position for serious negotiation.

This is so, so true. Having a strong BATNA is 90% of negotiating. When I negotiate a package with someone, I want to do 2 things:

1) make sure I compensate them fairly. I've learned that skimping on salary is penny wise and pound foolish. If an employee feels slighted by their compensation they'll start looking for a new job immediately after starting working with me.

2) make sure I'm not over paying and setting myself up for resetting my entire salary structure. Raising salaries is part of doing business, resetting salaries downwards is darn near impossible to do.

Re: How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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As someone who has been in IT for over 20 years and makes multiples of the highest salary used as an example in the article, I can state that I agree with all the advice given.

The post does a good job of walking the fine line between getting what you're worth and coming off like a conceited jerk.

There are more advanced salary negotiating techniques and ways to get into positions to negotiate your salary but those tend to be situation specific.

Re: How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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I suck at this stage of the new job process, at my current job i took the first offer which was "decent" money , largely because i didn't have much options (This is like dating).

My excitement about my new job and salary lasted about 3 months, from that point i feel like i am being underpaid, is it worth to try to renegotiate my salary when i have been only 3 months in a company? Otherwise how long should i wait to ask for a raise?

Re: How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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> Pre-reqs – If you’re not currently working, and you don’t have competing offers, you’re pretty much out of luck. So task #1 is to make sure you have competition for your talents. Otherwise, you might be able to ask for something small around the margins (eg help with relocation expenses), but you’re not in position for serious negotiation. This is so, so true. Having a strong BATNA is 90% of negotiating. When I neg…

I am baffled why managers rarely understand 1). In addition to slighting employees, it makes them easy for other companies to poach. It's also messy and expensive to counter offer once a resignation letter has been sent.

Re: How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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> Pre-reqs – If you’re not currently working, and you don’t have competing offers, you’re pretty much out of luck. So task #1 is to make sure you have competition for your talents. Otherwise, you might be able to ask for something small around the margins (eg help with relocation expenses), but you’re not in position for serious negotiation. This is so, so true. Having a strong BATNA is 90% of negotiating. When I neg…

I have been unemployed for over a year. Today I just got my first offer, which made me go "Coincidence?! Probably." It was less than I wanted but really after a year I feel like I have no power to negotiate.

Add to that my personality (avoid confrontation) and the fact that my last job I fell into so I didn't have to negotiate (there wasn't a contract it was just spoken and my checks increased).

That excerpt kind of summed up what I had been thinking all along. It was all I could do not to shout YES right away (before I even saw the details).

Re: How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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A bit of an addition to the note on not starting a long-term relationship on the wrong foot with your future employer.

I do think negotiating a job offer is very important. It doesn't benefit anyone if you are feeling undervalued/underpaid at a job. Work performance will take a hit, team dynamic will slowly shift, you will wake up every morning dreading to go to work.

However, I do think there is a need to resist the urge to treat negotiation like a game. Sure you may have gotten the best offer possible for your skills/experience, but how much do you need to be satisfied and do your best work? If you get hired having massively oversold yourself and the value you bring to the team, are you sure that would be a good start for your new job?

I recently negotiated a 7.4% increase on my base pay for a new job. I could have easily negotiated a 16% increase but I didn't. I want both parties to start the relationship happy. If either side feels like "did I just get cheated out of X?", that is a loss for me. Sure, any relationship may go bad, but why start a relationship if it's not going to be sweet to begin with?

Re: How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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post #4

I suck at this stage of the new job process, at my current job i took the first offer which was "decent" money , largely because i didn't have much options (This is like dating). My excitement about my new job and salary lasted about 3 months, from that point i feel like i am being underpaid, is it worth to try to renegotiate my salary when i have been only 3 months in a company? Otherwise how long should i wait to a…

If you are indeed underpaid, the first thing you need to do is get better offer from another company. At that point, your current company has to match or you leave.

Don't ask for more without an offer - it might work out but you risk compromising your current position without a having a backup.

Re: How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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> Leave something on the table

This is super important. In business, everyone is trying to make money, and if you don't help others achieve that goal, you are a dysfunctional businessperson. And generally, leaving some value on the table translates to better relationships with people—a natural consequence of giving people what they want. An employer becomes a boss when he or she can't get you to pull your weight.

You need to deliver.

Re: How to Negotiate a Job Offer

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post #8
post #4

I suck at this stage of the new job process, at my current job i took the first offer which was "decent" money , largely because i didn't have much options (This is like dating). My excitement about my new job and salary lasted about 3 months, from that point i feel like i am being underpaid, is it worth to try to renegotiate my salary when i have been only 3 months in a company? Otherwise how long should i wait to a…

If you are indeed underpaid, the first thing you need to do is get better offer from another company. At that point, your current company has to match or you leave. Don't ask for more without an offer - it might work out but you risk compromising your current position without a having a backup.

If you ask for a higher pay based on an offer from another company, you're already screwing yourself over.

Your current job MAY accept your pay increase but if they do, there's already a break in trust. And you're setting yourself up for being replaced. You may as well take that new offer right now.

Better option is to negotiate based on skills, experience, responsibilities, and other factors.

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