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Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by buggyURLs »

loganfrederick wrote: post #27
hemancuso wrote: post #7

I was shocked to discover this is the canonical URL & domain for the Amazon press releases. After I clicked the link and saw the URL I initially thought this was some bizarre phishing scheme. That being said, I think this is a great idea. I don't love the Facebook OAuth flow and the amount of access most apps ask for. I have trouble taking Twitter seriously as an OAuth provider [bias much?]. I think there are many US…

The URL is quite common among large corporations and is used by, off the top of my head, Gamestop and NVIDIA. www.google.com/search?q=corporate-ir.net

Yeah, but that URL behaves really weird, when you try requests for the domain without any actual URI at the end.

For example:

http://phx.corporate-ir.net

http://www.corporate-ir.net

http://www.ccbn.com Also:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:corporate-ir.net

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by rjohnk »

I DON'T WANT MORE LOGINS.

Pretty soon I'll go to "thenewestwebflatdesignstartup.com" and I'll be given these choices:

Login with Facebook, Login with Twitter, Login with Amazon, Login with Persona, Login with OpenID

or create an account with email

Click here if you have no idea what account you used.

/rant

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by bluthru »

aioprisan wrote: post #23
mmastrac wrote: post #2

Alright, but the question is "why would someone want to log in with Amazon"? There's no social network attached to your Amazon account. It seems like it would be an odd choice of identity provider, unless you are a store and already using Amazon's fulfillment services.

I don't have up to date addresses and payment methods anywhere else, besides PayPal, but I'm far more active on Amazon. That's a great way to turbo charge sales.

I think you have to integrate that separately:

https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/business/asp

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by mustafakidd »

crazygringo wrote: post #10
mmastrac wrote: post #2

Alright, but the question is "why would someone want to log in with Amazon"? There's no social network attached to your Amazon account. It seems like it would be an odd choice of identity provider, unless you are a store and already using Amazon's fulfillment services.

For some reason it strikes me as a pretty good idea. Upon further reflection, I think it has something to do with: - Trust -- people increasingly distrust sites like Facebook or Google (privacy concerns), but Amazon still has pretty much entirely "positive" feelings for consumers. And if they can run AWS as well as they can, then you assume you can trust them with your password too - Micropayments -- your credit card…

Absolutely agree - I'd love to be able to use my account on other merchant's sites without having to enter cc info.

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by 300bps »

hemancuso wrote: post #7

I was shocked to discover this is the canonical URL & domain for the Amazon press releases. After I clicked the link and saw the URL I initially thought this was some bizarre phishing scheme. That being said, I think this is a great idea. I don't love the Facebook OAuth flow and the amount of access most apps ask for. I have trouble taking Twitter seriously as an OAuth provider [bias much?]. I think there are many US…

>That being said, I think this is a great idea. I don't love the Facebook OAuth flow and the amount of access most apps ask for.

You bring up a perfect point from a user's perspective and I agree with you. The challenge for Amazon is that there are two competing interests:

1. Users who don't want their entire life to be open to developers

2. Developers that want as much info as possible on the users

Facebook favors group #2 above, Amazon will probably favor group #1 above. If that ends up being the case, how many developers will be willing to utilize the OAuth service that doesn't give them as much info by default?

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by r4vik »

xsace wrote: post #26

I hate Amazon login where I can't reuse any old passwords as a new one or even as part of the new one. It makes it just impossible to remember your login when you reset it a few times, because you need to learn a new one.

why are you remembering passwords?

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by Turing_Machine »

ollysb wrote: post #19
crazygringo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some reason it strikes me as a pretty good idea. Upon further reflection, I think it has something to do with: - Trust -- people increasingly distrust sites like Facebook or Google (privacy concerns), but Amazon still has pretty much entirely "positive" feelings for consumers. And if they can run AWS as well as they can, then you assume you can trust them with your password too - Micropayments -- your credit card…

That's probably because you're a paying customer rather than a pair of eyeballs to them.

Right. You're the customer, not the product.

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by Turing_Machine »

aioprisan wrote: post #29
aioprisan wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have up to date addresses and payment methods anywhere else, besides PayPal, but I'm far more active on Amazon. That's a great way to turbo charge sales.

on second look, it's just a login system, no payment integration https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/lwa/dev/...

I hope payment integration is at least on the burner, though. It seems like an obvious addition -- if the customer is already logged in to your site through Amazon, why not let them bill their Amazon account for stuff on the site?

Amazon certainly isn't averse to third-parties using their infrastructure; in fact, they've encouraged it. Kindle Direct Publishing, their third-party seller program, all of the AWS offerings...

Naturally, Amazon is going to want a cut (which is a perfectly reasonable thing for them to expect, don't get me wrong).

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by arscan »

buggyURLs wrote: post #41
loganfrederick wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The URL is quite common among large corporations and is used by, off the top of my head, Gamestop and NVIDIA. www.google.com/search?q=corporate-ir.net

Yeah, but that URL behaves really weird, when you try requests for the domain without any actual URI at the end. For example: http://phx.corporate-ir.net http://www.corporate-ir.net http://www.ccbn.com Also: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:corporate-ir.net

Some history for those that are interested:

corporate-ir.net is a utility domain that only exists to serve customized investor relations sites. The base domain itself actually does nothing. Think of it like github.io... www.github.io serves no purpose in itself.

phx.corporate-ir.net was a major upgrade to corporate-ir.net done around 2003, called phoenix. That's why there's the strange phx subdomain in front of the domain. Apparently that was the last upgrade they did to this service... and its neglect is most likely the result of a couple of acquisitions.

corporate-ir.net was created by a company called CCBN (ccbn.com). They were purchased in the 2000's by Thompson, which then merged with Reuters. Thomson purchased CCBN for a different product (not corporate-ir.net) that was strategically important to their business. So its not really a surprise that they haven't put much TLC into the way that the domains resolve -- this investor relations website business is peanuts compared to Thomson-Reuter's core competency.

Re: Amazon Announces Login with Amazon

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Post by rachelbythebay »

bitskits wrote: post #33
soapdog wrote: post #24

I'd rather use Mozilla Persona based login systems than OAuth based ones. From both a user and a developer point of view, Persona is a very refreshing approach to identity instead of OAuth. For those wanting to know more about Persona, check out https://login.persona.org/about also since Persona is from Mozilla, you can see all the code and development and you know that privacy and user safety are number one priority…

I'm having trouble finding sites that use Persona as a login option. Does anyone have any examples? Trovebox seems to have a demo site up, but I was not able to actually log in to my account.

Two of mine:

https://rachelbythebay.com/store/ - just put this up yesterday - easy enough.

http://scanner.rachelbythebay.com/main - this one's been using Persona since it was called browserid. (Hit the gear on a call to see the login prompt - you only need the login for certain extended functions)

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