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The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

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Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

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"The truth is that the current TV system is a great deal for everyone."

No, it isn't. I cut the cord, and watch media on Netflix & Hulu and buy 2-3 shows on iTunes. To get the same number of movies and series on TV I was paying for a $100+ per month cable bill. Now I'm paying $40 for internet and $8 for Netflix and about $6 per month from iTunes TV shows. So I get a better experience, can watch what I want when I want it, and pay about half of what I used to.

Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

#12
post #5

"Last week, ESPN averaged 1.36 million viewers a day, which is 9.52 million for the week, or about 40.8 million for the month." No, this is wrong. The linked article where this stat is pulled showed an average of 1.36MM viewers during prime time. That's only 3 hours of the day. I'm not familiar enough with TV metrics to speak to this, but I don't think standard metrics that are public are going to give you the kind o…

My family, my wife's 4 sisters' families, her mom, my mom = zero ESPN viewing. Moving on to friends...

Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

#13

"The truth is that the current TV system is a great deal for everyone." No, it isn't. I cut the cord, and watch media on Netflix & Hulu and buy 2-3 shows on iTunes. To get the same number of movies and series on TV I was paying for a $100+ per month cable bill. Now I'm paying $40 for internet and $8 for Netflix and about $6 per month from iTunes TV shows. So I get a better experience, can watch what I want when I wan…

I get cable AND Internet for $55/month (including espn and amc). People who claim cable is expensive seem to be unwilling to lessen their bill.

Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

#14

"Except for one little problem: the economics of cord-cutting simply don’t make sense, for neither networks nor viewers." I think he doth protest to much. Cord cutting makes PERFECT SENSE for the viewer. We haven't had Cable/Sat in our house for over 5 years. Don't miss it (or it's outrageous cost) a bit.

Cord cutting sucks for people who like to watch live sports in the US.

We've been cable free for a little over a year now and I've missed two sets of NBA playoffs. I chomp at the bit to watch playoff basketball for two months and finally get my fill when the Finals come and are put on a broadcast network (ABC).

If I want to pay to watch the NBA playoffs without cable I can, I just have buy an NBA League Pass (which I'm cool with) and then pay for a VPN service and route all my traffic to another country (which I'm not cool with).

Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

#15
post #5

"Last week, ESPN averaged 1.36 million viewers a day, which is 9.52 million for the week, or about 40.8 million for the month." No, this is wrong. The linked article where this stat is pulled showed an average of 1.36MM viewers during prime time. That's only 3 hours of the day. I'm not familiar enough with TV metrics to speak to this, but I don't think standard metrics that are public are going to give you the kind o…

Those numbers are most certainly wrong, if ESPN was only pulling 1.36 million viewers a day they would not be doing very well.

Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

#16
post #9

The numbers here don't make sense. Most people are paying $50 per month for cable, which supports the current industry. If they all switch to paying ~$50 per month in a different model (whatever it is), an industry of the same size will be supported. The subscription "all you can eat" model is great. The thing that needs to change from current cable is that I should be able to watch it wherever and whenever I want (a…

I really don't think it's a cost issue. It's a lack of choice issue. I pay about $65 a month for IPTV service (plus another $15 - $20 a month for the privilege of having HD channels and to rent a few set-top boxes) and I still don't get at least a few "premium" channels that I would really like to have, just because I am at the upper limit of what I'm willing to spend. I don't want to be force fed a bunch of channels I will never watch. The model is broken.

Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

#17
AMC is a terrible example for this, because their shows are available on iTunes a la carte right now. I have 'cut the cord' and still get new Mad Men episodes thanks to iTunes. I can directly support the show--not even the network--that I like. That is the cord-cutting ideal. Consumers don't give a shit about networks and their profits, we want the content we like at a reasonable price in a timely fashion.

Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

#18
The economics remind me of trying to cut government spending:

> Only 4.8 percent of households watch ESPN. If ESPN were only available a la carte, each of those households would have to pay $101.60/month for ESPN to achieve the same revenue numbers they do currently > The 95.2 percent of households who don’t watch ESPN would only see their cable bills decrease by $5.13 were they able to exclude it

Is like: Cutting XYZ program would significantly hurt a small group, who understandably protest. It would save each taxpayer only $1 a year. So it probably doesn't get cut.

Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

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post #12
post #5

"Last week, ESPN averaged 1.36 million viewers a day, which is 9.52 million for the week, or about 40.8 million for the month." No, this is wrong. The linked article where this stat is pulled showed an average of 1.36MM viewers during prime time. That's only 3 hours of the day. I'm not familiar enough with TV metrics to speak to this, but I don't think standard metrics that are public are going to give you the kind o…

My family, my wife's 4 sisters' families, her mom, my mom = zero ESPN viewing. Moving on to friends...

Are all these families cable subscribers?

And the number essentially means 19 of 20 "cable families" have zero ESPN viewing. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see that being a realistic number the methodology that created the 95% statistic wasn't exactly solid.

Re: The Cord-Cutting Fantasy

#20

"The truth is that the current TV system is a great deal for everyone." No, it isn't. I cut the cord, and watch media on Netflix & Hulu and buy 2-3 shows on iTunes. To get the same number of movies and series on TV I was paying for a $100+ per month cable bill. Now I'm paying $40 for internet and $8 for Netflix and about $6 per month from iTunes TV shows. So I get a better experience, can watch what I want when I wan…

At this point, though, there are too few people doing what you're doing to influence content creator behavior. Cable companies are probably making less per unit of content off of you than they are off of cable subscribers, but that's okay: the costs of making the content are essentially fixed, and are paid for mostly by cable subscribers. If they have to choose between getting dollars from you for content they've already made, or not at all, they'll take the money, even if it's less than they'd get from a cable subscriber.

But if everyone does that, the economics of content production totally change. The shows you're buying now might not even get made in the first place.

In other words, the quote you pulled could use some more context: "The truth is that the current TV system is a great deal for everyone [including the current cord cutters]."

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