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Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by WickyNilliams »

marknutter wrote: post #24

I would personally like to see a CSS framework that has absolutely zero opinions about design. Meaning, radio buttons are actually the standard html5 radio buttons, but perhaps with titles handled in a unified way that works across all browsers. Form elements are given proper layout CSS that solves a lot of common issues across all browsers but no additional styling is added. Etc. I don't want my site to look like ye…

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned inuit css[0]. It's written by the highly knowledgeable Harry Roberts (aka CSS Wizardry) and it has exactly this goal. All you get is some boiler plate stuff. It's well designed (from a code perspective) and states "inuit.css provides little-to-no design which means no undoing things, no deleting CSS and no adhering to other peoples’ design decisions.". Though I guess it might be one step back from what you want, as you won't really find widgets, carousels or anything beyond very simple components in the framework.

[0] http://inuitcss.com/

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by skcin7 »

robotmay wrote: post #72
mratzloff wrote: post #42

I realize we're all in our early 20s with 20/15 vision, but this trend of microscopic fonts is really unfriendly to the old guys who sometimes want to read things on the web.

Hell I'm 25 and struggled with some of those font sizes. I probably do need to get my prescription altered, however.

I'm 25 and I can read it fine but I agree it needs to be bigger. 14px is a good starting size IMO for fonts.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by alipang »

TannerLD wrote: post #85
mratzloff wrote: post #42

I realize we're all in our early 20s with 20/15 vision, but this trend of microscopic fonts is really unfriendly to the old guys who sometimes want to read things on the web.

I'm 22 and I have trouble reading the text. I don't even have glasses.

As I'm on a 12-inch thinkpad with fairly high res, meaning the PPI is pretty high, I have to zoom into websites all the time. This template handles zooming quite nice I think.

Longing for the day of viewport-sized units though.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by nickbyfleet »

cuttooth wrote: post #61
gnaritas wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You called web developers and utter embarrassment, that is name calling, and if you said that face to face you might get punched.

They are an embarrassment and I strongly doubt that I'd be punched.

Please try to remember that this is not Reddit.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by brianleroux »

marknutter wrote: post #24

I would personally like to see a CSS framework that has absolutely zero opinions about design. Meaning, radio buttons are actually the standard html5 radio buttons, but perhaps with titles handled in a unified way that works across all browsers. Form elements are given proper layout CSS that solves a lot of common issues across all browsers but no additional styling is added. Etc. I don't want my site to look like ye…

Its early days for Topcoat (thus the lacking docs) but our reset is separated from aesthetic (and layout) so you can run an optimized build that gives you exactly what you describe.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by brianleroux »

packetslave wrote: post #52
brianleroux wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're working on it! Pls file issues http://github.com/topcoat/topcoat and we'll get on em. =)

If you type 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', then I'll type 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'

LULZ UR SO CLEVAR!

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by alan_cx »

volaski wrote: post #21
alan_cx wrote: post #13

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Wonderful. If there is a thread about bootstrap, some one posts "why must everything be bootstrap?" Get a thread about a bootstrap alternative and...... bingo!!!! (Not having a go at you personally, Im sure your question was genuine. Just making general observation of the irony)

yes it was a genuine question. i guess i should have phrased it differently. I just wanted to know the difference (or benefit of this over bootstrap). I mean if a wheel is being re-invented, there's gotta be a reason behind it. (I guess "because I can" could be an answer, but I was looking for some good answer)

Fair question, and I would suggest this:

I think a good enough reason is because some one could. No reason why some one cant just say; I can do that too, and I know lots of people say they would like an alternative, so lets just give it a go and see if any one likes it enough to use. And for me, that's good enough.

Giving it a go for no obvious reason is the blood of a "hacker", IMHO. Its the doing of it that is of value. One learns form the experience.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by dwabyick »

macspoofing wrote: post #11

It looks very nice, but it doesn't bode well when the 'mobile' section has atrociously slow scroll speed and completely breaks.

This is a known/filed issue. Current work in progress to generate a new mobile friendly guide. There's a lot of components on that page for mobile.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by ExpiredLink »

skcin7 wrote: post #92
robotmay wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hell I'm 25 and struggled with some of those font sizes. I probably do need to get my prescription altered, however.

I'm 25 and I can read it fine but I agree it needs to be bigger. 14px is a good starting size IMO for fonts.

Firefox Users:

Options / Content / Fonts & Colors / Advanced ... / Minimal font size

(some pages don't like this)

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by volaski »

JoeKM wrote: post #51
volaski wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes it was a genuine question. i guess i should have phrased it differently. I just wanted to know the difference (or benefit of this over bootstrap). I mean if a wheel is being re-invented, there's gotta be a reason behind it. (I guess "because I can" could be an answer, but I was looking for some good answer)

My problem with your question is the evergrowing lack of critical thinking on HN. I think even PG has eluded to it. What's the difference from Bootstrap? Why don't you view its source? Read through the framework's documentation? For one the default styling is significantly different than Bootstrap. The one thing I fondly miss about Slashdot is people would liberally tell you to RTFM when you asked something obvious t…

Yes I do that when it's apparent that it's worth my time. When I come across a new technology which I don't really get the point of (like this one), I ask around first instead of wasting my time to go through viewing the source and stuff. That's what most people who respect their own time do.
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