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Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by LukeShu »

mindcrime wrote: post #49
toomuchtodo wrote: post #31

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Check out the contribution license for a chuckle: http://topcoat.io/dev/topcoat-cla.html

Why a chuckle? I like that they at least let you fill out the CLA online. The ASF still requires contributors to fax in a paper form (or they did last time I checked, which was when I did mine, which was, now that I think about it, some time ago, so maybe this long rambling comment is actually pointless after all...) Anyway, the point is, having an online form to submit a CLA seems like a positive step to me, if you'…

The FSF also still requires fax or mail, as of when I did mine about 1.5 years (I think) ago.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by acoyfellow »

anonfunction wrote: post #69
mindcrime wrote: post #49

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Why a chuckle? I like that they at least let you fill out the CLA online. The ASF still requires contributors to fax in a paper form (or they did last time I checked, which was when I did mine, which was, now that I think about it, some time ago, so maybe this long rambling comment is actually pointless after all...) Anyway, the point is, having an online form to submit a CLA seems like a positive step to me, if you'…

It's using bootstrap

This should speak volumes about how ready the framework really is..

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by seferphier »

notjustanymike wrote: post #77
paulirish wrote: post #70

One of topcoat's goals is to be highly performant CSS (especially on mobile, it's hard to deliver fast UI). To this end they're using the Chromium Telemetry project to benchmark the performance of their CSS continually. Basically CSS Performance Regression Testing. See http://bench.topcoat.io/ and http://bench.topcoat.io/v2/view/results?date=30&#38 ; (metrics for time spent in recalc styles, layout, paint, composite…

See that's the kind of sentence that should be on the homepage!

exactly.

Knowing that there are more popular alternatives around, the question that everyone has is: why should i use this? This value prop is something that interests me greatly.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by seferphier »

JoeKM wrote: post #80
gnaritas wrote: post #58

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Then go back to slashdot and be rude there.

Suggesting someone to apply critical thinking is anything but. Your confrontational attitude is though. Another thing becoming of HN.

you are being rude in the first place. You could have framed your comment better. quit HN if this community is disturbing you so much.

I disagree with your original comment. Yes, we can read the source. Yes, we can analyze it ourselves. But time is limited to all of us. The product should state exactly how it is different with the competition and why we should pick it. This is similar to how pg asks startups to describe themselves in one simple sentence. You don't tell pg that he lacks critical thinking for not reading my website.

Stating how you are different gives the customers focus. If you state that you are different because of X then you can go into the code and look at X particularly.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by mindcrime »

anonfunction wrote: post #69
mindcrime wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why a chuckle? I like that they at least let you fill out the CLA online. The ASF still requires contributors to fax in a paper form (or they did last time I checked, which was when I did mine, which was, now that I think about it, some time ago, so maybe this long rambling comment is actually pointless after all...) Anyway, the point is, having an online form to submit a CLA seems like a positive step to me, if you'…

It's using bootstrap

Oh, OK. I thought the "chuckle" was something about the fact that they had a CLA at all, or the content of the CLA. :-)

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by mindcrime »

jamesbrennan wrote: post #74

I find it kind of odd and off putting that Adobe makes you sign something to contribute to the project. I think the only proper way to do switches is by using checkboxes and CSS transformations [0] - their javascript solution is not desirable. [0] http://www.larentis.eu/switch/

I find it kind of odd and off putting that Adobe makes you sign something to contribute to the project.

That's pretty common in larger projects, and/or projects that have a commercial entity backing them. And there are some very good reasons for it. It helps keep the provenance and legality of the code in more of a known state, and could be important in a SCO v. IBM type case. Also, if re-licensing ever becomes desirable down the road, it's a hell of a lot easier if at least one entity or person has permission to release the entire code base under an arbitrary license. Take the Linux kernel, where it would be effectively impossible to relicense even if Linus wanted to, since the copyright ownership is spread out among gosh knows how many people, some of who nobody knows how to contact, and some of whom might not even be alive for all we know.

The FSF, ASF and other big open source organizations also typically require a CLA or a copyright assignment of some sort as well. So at least this isn't Adobe just being evil or anything. That's not to say whether they are or aren't evil, just saying that the CLA thing, in and of itself, isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Re: Topcoat – CSS for clean and fast web apps

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Post by andyhmltn »

funthree wrote: post #47
yareally wrote: post #36

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Although Adobe is a commercial entity, that seems like pretty standard boilerplate (at least parts about making sure you're the sole owner and such). When I wanted to contribute to the android cyanogenmod project, they had a similar agreement online.

It's made with bootstrap css

Shouldn't make a difference really
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