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Secure Boot isn't the only problem facing Linux on Windows 8 hardware

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Re: Secure Boot isn't the only problem facing Linux on Windows 8 hardware

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's saying that the entire USB system won't be initialized, which means no keyboards that use USB.

Is it even that common to find hardware that will take a non-USB keyboard anymore? I've got some, but it's old .

Laptops are often still an approximation of PS/2.

Re: Secure Boot isn't the only problem facing Linux on Windows 8 hardware

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post #2

What's wrong with agreeing to the EULA?

I don't see why this comment is being downvoted. Certainly, agreeing clicking through the EULA isn't ideal, but is it anything other than a theoretical nuisance?

I'm genuinely curious - does there exist some relevant and concerning precedent here?

If this turns out to actually become an issue, it would probably harm Microsoft more than anyone - and would be a boon to manufacturers willing to bundle Linux on pre-built machines (such as the Alienware x51 or "developer" x13). However, I sincerely can't see anything coming of this threat.

Re: Secure Boot isn't the only problem facing Linux on Windows 8 hardware

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post #33
post #2

What's wrong with agreeing to the EULA?

I don't see why this comment is being downvoted. Certainly, agreeing clicking through the EULA isn't ideal, but is it anything other than a theoretical nuisance? I'm genuinely curious - does there exist some relevant and concerning precedent here? If this turns out to actually become an issue, it would probably harm Microsoft more than anyone - and would be a boon to manufacturers willing to bundle Linux on pre-built…

If this turns out to actually become an issue, it would probably harm Microsoft more than anyone . . .

It would probably harm Microsoft eventually. It would harm whoever gets turned into a legal test case immediately - which is the sort of thing you avoid by not electronically signing randomly selected legal documents.

Re: Secure Boot isn't the only problem facing Linux on Windows 8 hardware

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post #3

What are the benefits of Secure Boot?

It means you can have a crazy BIOS screen heavy with customised images that looks all 3li7e and stuff for the gamer crowd.

My PC has one such thing, and it's garbage. I managed to find out how to put it into some sort of 'information' mode with less graphics and more info... but isn't a BIOS screen supposed to be a wholly info thing anyway?

Re: Secure Boot isn't the only problem facing Linux on Windows 8 hardware

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post #33
post #2

What's wrong with agreeing to the EULA?

I don't see why this comment is being downvoted. Certainly, agreeing clicking through the EULA isn't ideal, but is it anything other than a theoretical nuisance? I'm genuinely curious - does there exist some relevant and concerning precedent here? If this turns out to actually become an issue, it would probably harm Microsoft more than anyone - and would be a boon to manufacturers willing to bundle Linux on pre-built…

If you agree to the EULA, then you can't get a refund for the Windows license that comes with the computer.

Re: Secure Boot isn't the only problem facing Linux on Windows 8 hardware

#38
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with me setting my user-agent to "By allowing me access, you waive all rights and policies regarding my access." and then viewing your website? Hint: it's about as enforceable as a EULA, but just as obnoxious and offensive because it presumes too much and oversteps bounds. Still, in the grand scheme of things, my UA string makes more sense, as putting something online is practically tantamount to putting…

This EULA is unlikely to be unenforceable, as you have the option of returning the product to the manufacturer if you don't want to agree to it.

MS was the creator of the license that was 'activated' by opening the box in which the license resided. No way to even view the license without 'activating' it.

Re: Secure Boot isn't the only problem facing Linux on Windows 8 hardware

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post #36
post #3

What are the benefits of Secure Boot?

It means you can have a crazy BIOS screen heavy with customised images that looks all 3li7e and stuff for the gamer crowd. My PC has one such thing, and it's garbage. I managed to find out how to put it into some sort of 'information' mode with less graphics and more info... but isn't a BIOS screen supposed to be a wholly info thing anyway?

That has absolutely nothing to do with Secure Boot.

If anything, what you're talking about has more to do with EFI

Re: Secure Boot isn't the only problem facing Linux on Windows 8 hardware

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What a whiner! Maybe it's different for laptops, but for desktops, you can still go almost anywhere and have a custom-built system made without any Windows install at all! Huge hard drive, flaming fast GPU, RAM up tha wazoo, studio-grade sound card and as many cores as Intel or AMD can cram onto a chip these days. Hell, if you want a Linux laptop, buy a Sputnik from Dell!
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