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Heroku: Commercial Launch (YC W08)

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Re: Heroku: Commercial Launch (YC W08)

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For those that understand what a 'Dyno' is, is this expensive?

From their "How It Works" section: "A dyno is roughly equivalent to a Mongrel, except that dynos are spread across multiple servers, so performance in most cases is greater. 4 dynos are equivalent to the compute power of one CPU-core on other systems." A dyno is different from the common RAM+Bandwidth VPS slice, so it's difficult to make a comparison. (I'm going to do it anyway...) I would say that a 4 dyno machine,…

I'd argue that a Dyno isn't nearly as resource intensive. If 4 Dynos == 1024MB slice, then each Dyno would be using 256MB. Ruby app servers don't need that much RAM each and with a 1024MB slice you could fit a good deal more than 4 Dynos in it.

In fact, the Phusion Passenger documentation says that they recommend 30 app servers within 2GB of RAM. They do say that if you're running lots of other things like MySQL on a 256MB VPS, you probably want to limit yourself to two app servers. Still, it scales up much nicer. For $70/mo you could easily fit 10 app servers with your database on the same box - something that would cost several hundred dollars with Heroku.

That said, Heroku's selling point won't be cost. Heroku makes deployment exceedingly simple. You don't have to worry about installing anything, configuring anything, making sure things stay up, etc. And that has value - especially if you aren't a *nix gearhead. It's more than a slight premium, but it can still be worth it given that it gives you a worry-free environment.

Re: Heroku: Commercial Launch (YC W08)

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Not sure if I'm just missing this part of their pricing pages, but if your site starts needing more resources than what you planned on, does it automatically and gracefully bump up the appropriate numbers on the pricing plan and bill you accordingly?

Re: Heroku: Commercial Launch (YC W08)

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ridiculously gorgeous pricing page: http://heroku.com/pricing#blossom-2

Needs a better description of "dynos" than the help section gives. Also, what is a backup "bundle"? Finally, no mention of bandwidth, only storage. Are there any guarantees here?

Re: Heroku: Commercial Launch (YC W08)

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ridiculously gorgeous pricing page: http://heroku.com/pricing#blossom-2

It is pretty as all heck. I'd be A/B testing it against a simpler one-click-and-done pricing scheme, though. I think geeks get a high off of complex pricing schemes like very few other people do, in particular, in a way that very few people who have the authority to sign off on a $3,500 a month ongoing cost do. I mean, take the hourly cron option, for example. I'd be asking myself the question "Is having this standar…

These are all good points. There is something else though that's kind of amazing about the page. It got a whole bunch of people who make the decision on what hosting platform to use to talk about it and link to it. They somehow turned a pricing page into viral marketing.

Plus it furthers their brand amongst the HN crowd that they have their act together and are worthy of trusting your application to.

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