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> I mostly do it because I'm lazy. You do realize that's exactly the impression your habit conveys, right?
Personally, I wouldn't have thought to consider him lazy had he not mentioned it, but rather just someone completely disinterested in fashion. /2cents
The Year of Dressing Formally (2008)
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#42I just wish more American businessmen would wear decent shoes, such as bluchers or oxfords by Alden or Allen Edmonds, so I don't have to see anymore rubber soled, bicycle toed loafers at the airport: http://instagram.com/p/ZbdZfMsM4G/
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#43I dress the same every day. Black t-shirt with no logo, jeans, and sneakers. If its cold, I put on my black hoodie. That's all you will see. Nice ocassions? My wife takes care of that. Otherwise, it's my uniform. Clothing costs have gone down, I save time and money by not having to pick what to wear of having to wash things in differen loads. But, I mostly do it because I'm lazy.
I gave that up because it got too boring (for me). The crack in the dam came when I added in a selection of monochromatic (non-black) tees. It was all downhill from there.
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People wear all kinds of silly fashions here in Italy, which is pretty much the fashion capital of the world. Some of them may be well made, name-brand silly fashions, but they certainly look odd 5 years out from when they were 'in'. I'm with Zuckerberg, and Jobs with his 'uniform' on this one: most of that junk is a complete waste of your time. The only winning move is not to play. You don't have to wear just sweats…
I think the failure of so many in the software/IT business to dress and groom to professional standards has important consequences. The perception of the social prestige of the occupation is lowered in the broader society. This in turn invites the misguided pointy-haired-boss managerial approach to developers. In the eyes of many, software people appear to be some sort of lower level technicians like the guys who sto…
People typically care more about the respect of their peers than the respect of random people in general. Wearing a suit among software people doesn't make you look "professional", it makes you pretentious at worst and just a bit weird at best.
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#45FWIW, wearing a suit (in the modern "business suit" sense of term) isn't technically "formal" dress. Heck, it isn't even semi-formal. Semi-formal would be a tuxedo (for men), and formal wear would be "morning dress" or "white tie".[1] "Business suits" fall into the category of "lounge suit" which is considered informal dress.[2] [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_wear [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lounge_su…
60 years ago, wearing anything other than a suit and tie was considered informal. Even just a tucked-in shirt without a tie and black pants was informal dress.
Men commonly would be seen in business suits; and usually wore hats as well.
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#46I dress the same every day. Black t-shirt with no logo, jeans, and sneakers. If its cold, I put on my black hoodie. That's all you will see. Nice ocassions? My wife takes care of that. Otherwise, it's my uniform. Clothing costs have gone down, I save time and money by not having to pick what to wear of having to wash things in differen loads. But, I mostly do it because I'm lazy.
> I mostly do it because I'm lazy. You do realize that's exactly the impression your habit conveys, right?
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#47"One day you put on a tie, the next day you are driving a Hummer and voting Republican." My official nomination for quote of the day.
For tomorrow, perhaps this: "Among other things, Mr. Flusser has led me to discover the value of the male garter for holding up slouchy socks."
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#48I'm not a developer or in "tech" in the pure sense, and I know this depends on the "culture", but I'm also on the East Coast and a bunch of our devs have Bow Tie Tuesday and really get into it. May be a geographic thing as well: I'm as like as not to wear dark jeans, nice shoes, a button-down, and a blazer on weekends.
And it isn't cheap. If you shop around, you can find a reasonable suit for under $500, which is still a fair amount of t-shirts and hoodies. However, the key to dress clothes more so than quality is fit—you should have all your suits tailored to fit you, and that's another $100 or so between jacket, pants, etc.
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#49That's how you get tourists with sweatpants and fanny packs outside the Florence Duomo.
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by the age you're supposed to start "supposed to"? According to why? And what gives this amorphous "they" any standing to dictate such a thing? Fuck that... I like to dandy it up and rock the "two and a half piece" suit look sometimes (that is, waistcoat and - in my case - a cravat, but no outer jacket), but I do it because I like it, not because somebody says it's what you're supposed to do. And the rest of the time…
Why don't you put "jeans and Twisted Sister t-shirt" version on LinkedIn profile? In the neighbourhood I'm known as "the bathrobe guy with funny facial hair", so I get you . I don't want attract people around me who will judge a book by its covers, but majority people I interacted with are living in that cave. It is pretty oblivious to walk around and think that your appearance doesn't matter to substantial number of…
That's actually a damn good idea. The picture that is there now is just one I picked because it's a halfway decent picture. I'm not terribly photogenic, so I usually try to avoid having my picture taken at pretty much all costs. If I had a good picture of myself in jeans and a T/S t-shirt, I'd switch it right now.
As soon as I can get a new picture taken, I'll do it though.
It is pretty oblivious to walk around and think that your appearance doesn't matter to substantial number of people you do business and socialize with.
Oh I don't think it doesn't matter to some people, I just try very hard not to think about those people or their opinions. Maybe if I would "play by the rules" more I'd be richer or more successful or whatever, but it's just not worth it...
After all, as they say
Getcha a 3-piece Wall Street smile and son you'll
look just like me
I said "Hey man, there's something that you oughta know"
I tell ya Park Avenue leads to Skid Row.[1]
[1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJrbHapH5pM