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Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by learningram » Tue, May 28, 2013, 10:12 AM UTC

cookiecaper wrote: post #37

kyrias wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with Thunderbird no longer updated What are you talking about?

Mozilla recently placed Thunderbird in a maintenance-only state, where active feature development has ceased but stability, security, and speed improvements will continue to be merged. This is why Thunderbird is on v17 instead of Firefox's v21 after graduating versions in lockstep with Fx for a while. It doesn't mean they won't accept features, they've just stated that they're not going to be focusing any of their de…

So what would be a good client on Windows ?

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by dalys » Tue, May 28, 2013, 10:22 AM UTC

I just tried the Peacekeeper benchmark from Futuremark (http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com/) on both Chrome and Opera Next on Windows 8 x64.

The results:

Chrome Version 26.0.1410.64 m: 2418 points, HTML5 Capabilities 5/7

Opera Next Version 15.0.1147.18: 4248 points, HTML5 Capabilities 5/7

Anyone else get similar results?

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by nightson » Tue, May 28, 2013, 10:29 AM UTC

fetbaffe wrote: post #55

peroo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Widgets have been a zombie product for years, with virtually no users and no development. It was actually removed from Opera about a year ago IIRC, so Chrome had nothing to do with it. The only thing I'll miss from O12 is Dragonfly. Probably just a habit, but I found it much more intuitive and well designed.

Dragonfly is one of the best! Maybe its still alive but not released yet depending on what they mean with this job offer http://business.opera.com/company/jobs/opening/372/

Really miss that. https://twitter.com/runeh/status/301616059729969152

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by lovamova » Tue, May 28, 2013, 10:29 AM UTC

dalys wrote: post #72

I just tried the Peacekeeper benchmark from Futuremark ( http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com/ ) on both Chrome and Opera Next on Windows 8 x64. The results: Chrome Version 26.0.1410.64 m: 2418 points, HTML5 Capabilities 5/7 Opera Next Version 15.0.1147.18: 4248 points, HTML5 Capabilities 5/7 Anyone else get similar results?

That's because Opera 15 is based on Chrome 28.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by ZeWaren » Tue, May 28, 2013, 10:35 AM UTC

Also, I can't find how to put my tabs on the left side of the window.

I don't think I can live without this anymore. What's the point of having wide screens if you stack everything vertically?

I also hope they won't remove the bookmark panel. Having your entire bookmark tree open anytime is a very pleasant feature in my opinion.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by Myrth » Tue, May 28, 2013, 10:38 AM UTC

dalys wrote: post #72

I just tried the Peacekeeper benchmark from Futuremark ( http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com/ ) on both Chrome and Opera Next on Windows 8 x64. The results: Chrome Version 26.0.1410.64 m: 2418 points, HTML5 Capabilities 5/7 Opera Next Version 15.0.1147.18: 4248 points, HTML5 Capabilities 5/7 Anyone else get similar results?

Opera: reported as Chrome 28.0.1500.20: 4326

Chromium: reported as Chrome 29.0.1513.0: 4226

Chrome: reported as Chrome 27.0.1453.94: 4244

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by pepijndevos » Tue, May 28, 2013, 10:44 AM UTC

Every change will break someones workflow.

http://xkcd.com/1172/

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by fetbaffe » Tue, May 28, 2013, 10:47 AM UTC

learningram wrote: post #71

cookiecaper wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla recently placed Thunderbird in a maintenance-only state, where active feature development has ceased but stability, security, and speed improvements will continue to be merged. This is why Thunderbird is on v17 instead of Firefox's v21 after graduating versions in lockstep with Fx for a while. It doesn't mean they won't accept features, they've just stated that they're not going to be focusing any of their de…

So what would be a good client on Windows ?

It does not exist. Trust me on that one.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by andybak » Tue, May 28, 2013, 11:19 AM UTC

upthedale wrote: post #63

Does this use the same process-per-tab sandboxing that Chrome uses? I'm one of those crazy users with far too many tabs, and I was always sceptical that Chrome would be able to handle them all. Opera always ran happily with 100+ tabs. Perhaps this is the reason for the introduction of the 'stash', which in fairness might be a better solution (as I'm not necessarily defending 100+ tabs, but its a habit that has worked…

I was a 100 tab kind of guy but this has helped me kick the habit: http://www.one-tab.com/

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by ch_123 » Tue, May 28, 2013, 11:24 AM UTC

anonymfus wrote: post #38

No middle click on tab bar to create new tab. Simple mouse gestures work, but without visual guide, configuration and without right click + scroll. Most horrible thing: MDI don't work. Popups opens in new window, like other browsers, instead of new tabs, like old Opera! Alerts currently don't have any chrome, so may be they would develop this later. Opera Link don't work. Text selection in links via mouse don't work.…

Two things I noticed -

1. No tab 'recycle bin' (you can get this with extensions in other browsers, but I always liked that Opera had it out of the box.)

2. The downloader is similar to Chrome's one, and I've always hated Chome's downloader. I want my browser to ask me whether I want to open the file (i.e. save into /tmp and open) or to save. I download a lot of things such as Office documents, tarballs, torrent files (etc) that I don't want to have to manually delete from my downloads folder when I'm done.

I can appreciate that this is a beta version, but right now, it looks a lot like Chrome with a different skin. I just hope it doesn't remain like that for long, as Opera is the one browser that annoys me the least.