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Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by lepunk »

lepunk wrote: post #58

Opera has been my primary browser since version 9 or so. When I heard the announcement that they will use the Chromium engine I was actually quite happy. They have been contributing to web standards a lot and with the power of the Chrome community I'm sure we will see big innovations. However this preview release is a big downer for me. I know it is a work in progress but it is missing some key features like the RSS…

also i found ctrl + shift + L is missing which was an excellent way to export all links from a page (like an apache index-of page)

and the biggest annoyance (which was only working in opera before): i usually set up custom domains to my local development like lepunk.loc or similar. opera used to interpret it correctly but now it does what any other browser do: does a google search

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by terhechte »

fetbaffe wrote: post #60

The performance is amazing! Simple selector test http://jsperf.com/jquery-selectors-vs-native-api/7 On my machine document.getElementById Opera 12.15: 2,089,859 Opera next: 15,609,851

The interesting question is, what do you get in Chrome. Obviously chromium is faster than the old Opera, the question is what has the new Opera to offer against the standard Chromium.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by upthedale »

Does this use the same process-per-tab sandboxing that Chrome uses? I'm one of those crazy users with far too many tabs, and I was always sceptical that Chrome would be able to handle them all. Opera always ran happily with 100+ tabs.

Perhaps this is the reason for the introduction of the 'stash', which in fairness might be a better solution (as I'm not necessarily defending 100+ tabs, but its a habit that has worked for me so far)

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by fetbaffe »

terhechte wrote: post #62
fetbaffe wrote: post #60

The performance is amazing! Simple selector test http://jsperf.com/jquery-selectors-vs-native-api/7 On my machine document.getElementById Opera 12.15: 2,089,859 Opera next: 15,609,851

The interesting question is, what do you get in Chrome. Obviously chromium is faster than the old Opera, the question is what has the new Opera to offer against the standard Chromium.

My Chrome version 27 on the same machine

14,376,750

Opera next is reported as Chrome version 28.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by claudius »

fetbaffe wrote: post #60

The performance is amazing! Simple selector test http://jsperf.com/jquery-selectors-vs-native-api/7 On my machine document.getElementById Opera 12.15: 2,089,859 Opera next: 15,609,851

How is memory usage with many tabs open?

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by ger_phpmagazin »

upthedale wrote: post #63

Does this use the same process-per-tab sandboxing that Chrome uses? I'm one of those crazy users with far too many tabs, and I was always sceptical that Chrome would be able to handle them all. Opera always ran happily with 100+ tabs. Perhaps this is the reason for the introduction of the 'stash', which in fairness might be a better solution (as I'm not necessarily defending 100+ tabs, but its a habit that has worked…

Tested it. It does.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by twenty2 »

Let's try to put this in some perspective: this is a 'new product' 'built from scratch' that has been provided at a version 1 'alpha release' level by an independent browser company based on a tried and tested rendering engine.

Like most users there are some features I will sorely miss here but I'm going to give it a try for a few days. See how things go from there.

Seems like Opera has given us a lot of innovation in the past. Most people might miss the significance of the change to Chromium for a small company like Opera. My gut feeling is that once they get over this initial bump in the road we will see a lot more existing and new features come our way (at least I will hold on to that thought!). I suspect they have much more time to focus on adding cool stuff now rather than keeping their head above water and we should all get a first-rate new browser to play with as a result.

Let's see what happens but I won't ever pass judgement on any first ever 'built from scratch' 'alpha' release of something.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by stinos »

porker wrote: post #20

If the mail client is good, then having it stand-alone is a great idea - with Thunderbird no longer updated I could do with an alternative on Windows (something that uses less RAM than keeping GMail open in a Chrome tab...)

For me the built-in mail/rss is one of the main reasons I stick to Opera, it's just so convenient not having to switch applications.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by SG- »

twenty2 wrote: post #68

Let's try to put this in some perspective: this is a 'new product' 'built from scratch' that has been provided at a version 1 'alpha release' level by an independent browser company based on a tried and tested rendering engine. Like most users there are some features I will sorely miss here but I'm going to give it a try for a few days. See how things go from there. Seems like Opera has given us a lot of innovation i…

I'm not exactly sure "built from scratch" applies to this new browser considering it mostly just seems to be Chrome at this point and not really bringing many features from older Opera.
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