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US entertainment industry to Congress: make it legal for us to deploy rootkits

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Re: US entertainment industry to Congress: make it legal for us to deploy rootkits

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I tried to be rational and then I got to the second paragraph of their own brief: "The second and even more pernicious effect is that illegal theft of intellectual property is undermining both the means and the incentive for entrepreneurs to innovate, which will slow the development of new inventions and industries that can further expand the world economy and continue to raise the prosperity and quality of life for…

Wow, "The National Bureau of Asian Research", really?

Re: US entertainment industry to Congress: make it legal for us to deploy rootkits

#253
post #82

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The proposals that allow select private companies to deploy destructive software which would land other people in jail very quickly is that crazy. Notion that it is somehow OK to kidnap my property because somebody thinks I owe them some money is that crazy. We have courts and due process for that. We can see how they are abused by copyright trolls (see Prenda Law case, for example, but there are many more). I can't…

Quotes from page 80: "Informed deliberations over whether corporations and individuals should be legally able to conduct threat-based deterrence operations against network intrusion, without doing undue harm to an attacker or to innocent third parties, ought to be undertaken." "he Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Defense, and law enforcement agencies should have the legal authority to use threat-bas…

I'm not a lawyer but I suspect locking somebody's computer up does violate the laws, as it is an unauthorized access to a computer system and a property damage.

>>> that's as crazy as it gets.

Not really. If you read recommendations on page 81, it does not explicitly endorses, but consistently hints at the law as inadequate in areas where it prohibits discussed offensive techniques. See "second" and "finally" parts where it does not explicitly says the mentioned tactics should be allowed but again strongly hints the changes in the law should be made, and implies allowing such methods are those changes.

Re: US entertainment industry to Congress: make it legal for us to deploy rootkits

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And that's the problem - you might as well keep pirating as Spotify isn't helping any artist while users think they're doing the noble thing.

Spotify is legal and the artists on the platform are on there of their own free will (or their publishers will who they signed that right away to). They could decide that they on want to steam on another platform if that is a better deal for them.

Absolutely, and many smaller artists and indie labels chose not to offer their catalogue on those platforms.

I didn't intend to offend the users of streaming services. I subscribed to rdio myself, only as a tastemaker though - I still buy a lot of lossless music.

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post #238

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And that's the problem - you might as well keep pirating as Spotify isn't helping any artist while users think they're doing the noble thing.

But people don't listen to music to benefit the artists (even when they purchase a CD or whatever) -- they do it for themselves. Artists make the vast majority of their money on tour, which is more or less unrelated to the choice of distribution channel, except that a more prolific channel results in more people attending a show.

That point is brought up often, but don't forget that while touring might work for your average indie rockband, it's not as easy for obscure ambient, experimental musicians. Music that is primarily intended for home listening is a lot harder to sell as live performance.

Again, I don't intend to offend the users of those services - just saying that Spotify, rdio and co. alone won't work for many artists.

Re: US entertainment industry to Congress: make it legal for us to deploy rootkits

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It's out on itunes the same day in HD for $3.5 an episode (unless you are in australia).

I just checked. You can't buy Game of Thrones season 3 via iTunes in the USA, but it looks like you could buy it in Australia. I tried buying an episode from the Australian iTunes store, but no luck.

Ah, I thought they offered that for everywhere, not just australia (and they're cancelling it in australia). Sorry to get your hopes up.

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It's out on itunes the same day in HD for $3.5 an episode (unless you are in australia).

I read there was something coming in next season to prevent same time iTunes release in Australia? Is this currently the case as well?

Yes, Foxtel is moving to block the itunes episodes from getting a speedy release. Not until next season though so we'll see if they succeed.

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I read there was something coming in next season to prevent same time iTunes release in Australia? Is this currently the case as well?

Yes, Foxtel is moving to block the itunes episodes from getting a speedy release. Not until next season though so we'll see if they succeed.

It is interesting, I don't think it will actually help them much. If you have Foxtel already you can likely get the whole of showtime for around the same price your paying on itunes for Game of Thrones. (While the season is going and there are day 4 eps a month.)

Not sure they are going to convince people that don't have Foxtel that they should pay $60+ a month for the service purely on the back of Game of Thrones.

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I read there was something coming in next season to prevent same time iTunes release in Australia? Is this currently the case as well?

Yes, Foxtel is moving to block the itunes episodes from getting a speedy release. Not until next season though so we'll see if they succeed.

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Re: US entertainment industry to Congress: make it legal for us to deploy rootkits

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Yes, Foxtel is moving to block the itunes episodes from getting a speedy release. Not until next season though so we'll see if they succeed.

It is interesting, I don't think it will actually help them much. If you have Foxtel already you can likely get the whole of showtime for around the same price your paying on itunes for Game of Thrones. (While the season is going and there are day 4 eps a month.) Not sure they are going to convince people that don't have Foxtel that they should pay $60+ a month for the service purely on the back of Game of Thrones.

Especially since the only part of the market they can hope to capture with this move is "people who already pay for game of thrones legally over itunes". I would think that most of those people also know how to torrent but choose not to and foxtel just pissed them off, I doubt they happily switch services.
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