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Google blimps will carry wireless signal across Africa

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Re: Google blimps will carry wireless signal across Africa

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Similarly, will it float so low that it could be shot down with a gun or missile? To avoid these two risks (storm and attack), I imagine it'd have to be at an altitude above weather currents and beyond shooting range... or be able to stabilize during a storm and be bulletproof.

It's clear, especially considering that these are meant to fly in some unstable countries in central Africa, that certain parties will be trying to attack these blimps. What kind of defenses to you think the blimps will have to defend against these strikes? Some sort of armor plating on the underside would seem to be the minimum. Hopefully they'll be equipped with some offensive capabilities as well to combat and dis…

We're discussing this a bit downthread-- in my opinion it's not a realistic threat. To kill a blimp at a couple of km you would need a modern ground-to-air missile (and know how to use it), or mass small arms fire of similar expense. It wouldn't be a good investment for a poor warlord, you'd only need to worry about organized military or other very well-financed organizations.

Re: Google blimps will carry wireless signal across Africa

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I suspect it will be more mobile internet than desktops - you do have to realise that these dayse the African economy practically runs on mobile phones, and land lines are uncommon to nonexistent. I wonder how that changes the way they'll use internet access. Speaking of how society uses the internet, I traveled through Ghana for four weeks last year and I heard that one of the reasons internet cafes aren't really wa…

Do these teens have access to tech training/education in theses areas?

Re: Google blimps will carry wireless signal across Africa

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That image of the Google blimp almost looks like the logo was photoshopped on. Any way to tell if that's real or not?

Yep, I think it's photoshopped: http://www.flickr.com/photos/isafmedia/4995227882/

I find it mildly amusing that one can use Google's search by image to find the real photo:

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZivEt7uQuw_1h05O2R...

Re: Google blimps will carry wireless signal across Africa

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I suspect it will be more mobile internet than desktops - you do have to realise that these dayse the African economy practically runs on mobile phones, and land lines are uncommon to nonexistent. I wonder how that changes the way they'll use internet access. Speaking of how society uses the internet, I traveled through Ghana for four weeks last year and I heard that one of the reasons internet cafes aren't really wa…

Even with your "Before this gets misinterpreted" sentence, your post is essentially saying: "Oh yes, well, internet in Africa would be nice, but those Africans, you know, they mainly use the internet to try to scam people in the first world". As such it is inaccurate, smug, racist and ignorant, and reflects an implicit assumption that the world should be organized so that it is benign to the interests of affluent westerners.

Re: Google blimps will carry wireless signal across Africa

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarly, will it float so low that it could be shot down with a gun or missile? To avoid these two risks (storm and attack), I imagine it'd have to be at an altitude above weather currents and beyond shooting range... or be able to stabilize during a storm and be bulletproof.

It's clear, especially considering that these are meant to fly in some unstable countries in central Africa, that certain parties will be trying to attack these blimps. What kind of defenses to you think the blimps will have to defend against these strikes? Some sort of armor plating on the underside would seem to be the minimum. Hopefully they'll be equipped with some offensive capabilities as well to combat and dis…

You can put a suprising amount of holes in a low pressure blimp/zeppelin before it becomes a problem. Unlike party balloons, they don't "pop". Armoring them against the occasional small arms fire is probably not worth it (the extra weight would probably cause more overall loss of buoyancy than the occasional hole.)

Re: Google blimps will carry wireless signal across Africa

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I suspect it will be more mobile internet than desktops - you do have to realise that these dayse the African economy practically runs on mobile phones, and land lines are uncommon to nonexistent. I wonder how that changes the way they'll use internet access. Speaking of how society uses the internet, I traveled through Ghana for four weeks last year and I heard that one of the reasons internet cafes aren't really wa…

I'm not completely sure how much the rank and file scammers earn over there, but if I recall correctly, it was 1200 $ (or was it 400?)per month for some very basic ordering from Walmart using cracked credit card type of affairs. I had this conversation a couple of months ago with a guy that tried applying to my school (wrong one), and asked me for advice. I pointed him to the university he was actually trying to apply to, and I asked him what he does for work.

Compared to their rough average wage of 120$ or so monthly (I haven't been able to find quite credible sources on this, so if I'm wrong, correct me), that sounds really good.

Re: Google blimps will carry wireless signal across Africa

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's clear, especially considering that these are meant to fly in some unstable countries in central Africa, that certain parties will be trying to attack these blimps. What kind of defenses to you think the blimps will have to defend against these strikes? Some sort of armor plating on the underside would seem to be the minimum. Hopefully they'll be equipped with some offensive capabilities as well to combat and dis…

We're discussing this a bit downthread-- in my opinion it's not a realistic threat. To kill a blimp at a couple of km you would need a modern ground-to-air missile (and know how to use it), or mass small arms fire of similar expense. It wouldn't be a good investment for a poor warlord, you'd only need to worry about organized military or other very well-financed organizations.

Wouldn't shooting down one of these constitute attacking a comercial aircraft of american origin? I think the implications of that would rule out organized military or other very well-financed organizations unless they are run by lunatics. But I've never attacked commercial us aircraft, so if anyone has experience with it...

Re: Google blimps will carry wireless signal across Africa

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He was definitely an important step in getting to this point. The WWW is what made the internet mainstream. That and ICQ.

If he hadn't taken that step, somebody else would a bit later. Even Microsoft tried to do their thing.

Microsoft tried to compete with Novell Netware, which was strictly focused on internal corporate network services. it was only much later that Bill Gates noticed the internet and WWW. But if the WWW hadn't existed, most likely MS would have followed the path of AOL and CompuServe, creating a walled garden for subscribers-only. It's unlikely that any corporation would have created the open web like TBL did.
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