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Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by schuylerlarson » Sat, May 25, 2013, 11:57 PM UTC

lelandbatey wrote: post #110

count wrote: post #90

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Why are they fake social interactions? Any bit of connection to other people is a social interaction. For some, it's a major part of their social interaction with peers. For others, it's a small bit part. It's definitely not 'fake' though. They are other people clicking that like button, and not some anonymous random internet strangers, like on Reddit or HN where the up/down arrows are used. You KNOW someone was look…

I don't think so. I find it more like meta-interaction. You're interacting with the results or consequences of someone else's interactions. If you're actually talking or communicating, via exchanges of comments or instant messages then I feel that's interaction.

Liking someone's photo is just as much of a social interaction as complimenting someones dress in person. Just two different mediums.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by plus9z » Sun, May 26, 2013, 6:48 AM UTC

rdl wrote: post #116

gcr wrote: post #104

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There was a time (maybe it's still possible) when Facebook Chat used XMPP, which means you could use a client like bitlbee or pdigin to connect.

It was never very stable.

Define stable. Do you mean it crashes? or that it drops out once in a while? Because I use Facebook over XMPP and I've never actually experienced any problems.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by coryl » Sun, May 26, 2013, 9:20 AM UTC

schuylerlarson wrote: post #120

coryl wrote: post #108

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Myspace's photo experience was terrible.

This is what people will say about Twitter, Facebook, and Gplus in a year from now.

Can you elaborate? Are you saying that the statement is just fashionable because everything tends to get better? Or do you believe there are better photo sharing experiences? Thanks

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by tomjen3 » Sun, May 26, 2013, 11:54 AM UTC

superuser2 wrote: post #80

parm289 wrote: post #70

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If you don't mind me asking, what do you/we think would constitute a better network? You mention privacy as a key factor -- I agree, but rationally a free social network must encourage sharing to stock its shelves with user information to provide to advertisers. In the other direction, there's App.net which can afford to enforce privacy because its income depends only on membership fees. (Unfortunately, membership fe…

>stock its shelves with user information to provide to advertisers People are always talking about how Facebook is selling your data. Is there any evidence for this? They'll use your data internally to target ads on behalf of advertisers, but do we know that they're actually giving the advertisers any information?

They have to be selling the data because the advertisers certainly aren't using it. I turned of my adblocker just to see what kinds of adds I was being offered.

I could get cheap heating gas from a company 200 miles away, buy crap I didn't need including "magic" amulets and my favorite: get the exact degree that I already had from the exact university that I got it from.

Facebook knows I am an atheist with a college degree, the school I went to and what degree I got there and my current city, so they should have been able to filter all of those out. None of that information was tricked out of me, btw, I added it all myself.

Oh and the rest of the ads were 90% shitty dating sites (because, I suspect, that good dating sites don't need to advertise) more than half of which were obvious scams (again, I have a college STEM degree, don't show me the stuff that hopes to just get stupid people to sign up).

Facebook does allow you to opt out of any given add or all ads from that company but they don't even allow you to opt out of ads for a particular group.

So yeah, I hope Facebook is selling the information because I have no idea what else the use it for.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by rdl » Sun, May 26, 2013, 3:26 PM UTC

plus9z wrote: post #122

rdl wrote: post #116

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It was never very stable.

Define stable. Do you mean it crashes? or that it drops out once in a while? Because I use Facebook over XMPP and I've never actually experienced any problems.

It dropped a lot when I tried using it, and the "in browser and Adium and a Pidgin" combination was super unstable -- caused it to crash a lot more. It may have improved, but I couldn't get it to stay connected more than 15 minutes. This was about 2 years ago maybe?