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Top 100 Australian Web Startups - April 09

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Re: Top 100 Australian Web Startups - April 09

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Post by razz0rly »

tjmc wrote: post #10
nreece wrote: post #5

Websites are ranked based on traffic. Startups are ranked based on revenue. Btw, we are ranked #25 on this list - http://feedity.com

Yes, it would be interesting to see the latter for Aussie web startups. You've got to wonder about a list that excludes Atlassian and Campaign Monitor. It should also list Stateless Systems rather than their products (cushycms, bugmenot, etc)

yep and on a global startup ranking google would be listed with all its products, not broken into separate products like feedburner, blogger, gmail etc. BTW I think Atlassian is on the list, though Campaign Monitor appears not to be.

Re: Top 100 Australian Web Startups - April 09

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Post by nreece »

razz0rly wrote: post #9
nreece wrote: post #5

Websites are ranked based on traffic. Startups are ranked based on revenue. Btw, we are ranked #25 on this list - http://feedity.com

So based on that hypothesis, Twitter, at $0 in revenue, would be the lowest ranked startup on any list?

Exception: a startup that hasn't reached a break-even point, should be excluded from such rankings.

Re: Top 100 Australian Web Startups - April 09

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Post by netsp »

tomaitch wrote: post #7

Rather than promote the scene, lists like this make it starkly apparent just how little startup activity there is in AU. On seeing a headline like this my first reaction is always "there are 100 startups in Australia??", followed upon reading the list by "apparently not". The rankings of some of those sites are a real worry. A site with an Alexa rank > 1000000 doesn't deserve to be on a top list of anything. They'd b…

For the one that I am most familiar with (Goodbarry), traffic to the site is not an indicator of anything. You might as well measure visits to their office.

It irritates me when I see a list of startups with traffic estimates beside them. (A) Traffic doesn't necessarily indicate anything. (B) Traffic isn't a useful comparison unless they are doing the same thing. IE if you are comparing newspapers to newspapers or online Shops to online shops, fine. But this is comparing one company selling enterprise software at 20k per customer (that may never see the site) to one selling books online to another that writes a blog. It's ridiculous.

Exon Mobil gets fewer pageviews then Google.

Re: Top 100 Australian Web Startups - April 09

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Post by tomaitch »

netsp wrote: post #13
tomaitch wrote: post #7

Rather than promote the scene, lists like this make it starkly apparent just how little startup activity there is in AU. On seeing a headline like this my first reaction is always "there are 100 startups in Australia??", followed upon reading the list by "apparently not". The rankings of some of those sites are a real worry. A site with an Alexa rank > 1000000 doesn't deserve to be on a top list of anything. They'd b…

For the one that I am most familiar with (Goodbarry), traffic to the site is not an indicator of anything. You might as well measure visits to their office. It irritates me when I see a list of startups with traffic estimates beside them. (A) Traffic doesn't necessarily indicate anything. (B) Traffic isn't a useful comparison unless they are doing the same thing. IE if you are comparing newspapers to newspapers or on…

As a general indicator of "traction", I don't mind the use of traffic estimates per se.

But for comparing AU sites, these numbers are near enough to useless, because they measure "global" traffic (in practice mainly USA traffic), and make no allowance for AU-specific traffic patterns.

Our site (yet to be properly launched) has an Alexa rank higher than Docoloco and a Compete rank higher than OzBargain. I know for a fact our actual traffic is much lower than these sites, and it's the relatively small volume of USA traffic we've been getting that has skewed the stats.

Re: Top 100 Australian Web Startups - April 09

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tomaitch wrote: post #14
netsp wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the one that I am most familiar with (Goodbarry), traffic to the site is not an indicator of anything. You might as well measure visits to their office. It irritates me when I see a list of startups with traffic estimates beside them. (A) Traffic doesn't necessarily indicate anything. (B) Traffic isn't a useful comparison unless they are doing the same thing. IE if you are comparing newspapers to newspapers or on…

As a general indicator of "traction", I don't mind the use of traffic estimates per se. But for comparing AU sites, these numbers are near enough to useless, because they measure "global" traffic (in practice mainly USA traffic), and make no allowance for AU-specific traffic patterns. Our site (yet to be properly launched) has an Alexa rank higher than Docoloco and a Compete rank higher than OzBargain. I know for a f…

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/salesforce.com+squidoo.com/
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