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Re: Clojure in the Field [video]

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I'm just starting to listen to this particular talk, but I want to comment now so this talk doesn't get buried.

I have to say that I'm very impressed with the Clojure community's eagerness to engage the real world in a way that most of my favorite languages haven't, while at the same time holding fairly firm on the things that matter (e.g. code readability and simplicity, referential transparency as a default, avoidance of OO traps).

Re: Clojure in the Field [video]

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Stu's O'Reilly video "Clojure Inside and Out" (http://my.safaribooksonline.com/9781449368647) is fascinating -- the first chapter (free) shows how to compose music with Overtone (http://overtone.github.io/). I've been programming in Clojure for the last year, but I had yet to experience Overtone. So cool.

Re: Clojure in the Field [video]

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I'm just starting to listen to this particular talk, but I want to comment now so this talk doesn't get buried. I have to say that I'm very impressed with the Clojure community's eagerness to engage the real world in a way that most of my favorite languages haven't, while at the same time holding fairly firm on the things that matter (e.g. code readability and simplicity, referential transparency as a default, avoida…

Would you say the Go community is similar in that regard?

Re: Clojure in the Field [video]

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Informative talk and I really like the vision he presents in the beginning of it. I started with Clojure from python and while a lot of good things are present in python, I really miss the whole notion of "let's step back a bit and ponder whether we are on the right track or not" that is present in the Clojure community. Especially the core team.

If I could just get half of what's in Clojure trickle into the mainstream languages I'd be a happy bunny.

Re: Clojure in the Field [video]

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post #4

I'm just starting to listen to this particular talk, but I want to comment now so this talk doesn't get buried. I have to say that I'm very impressed with the Clojure community's eagerness to engage the real world in a way that most of my favorite languages haven't, while at the same time holding fairly firm on the things that matter (e.g. code readability and simplicity, referential transparency as a default, avoida…

Would you say the Go community is similar in that regard?

I don't follow it much. The language is very good for its purpose (a compiled production language for large codebases that isn't painful to use) and the implementation is great, but I don't know much about the community itself.

When I worked at Google, I talked to a couple of the Go developers and they were really sharp guys, so that's a strong signal.

Re: Clojure in the Field [video]

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post #4

I'm just starting to listen to this particular talk, but I want to comment now so this talk doesn't get buried. I have to say that I'm very impressed with the Clojure community's eagerness to engage the real world in a way that most of my favorite languages haven't, while at the same time holding fairly firm on the things that matter (e.g. code readability and simplicity, referential transparency as a default, avoida…

Would you say the Go community is similar in that regard?

Golang developers follow the suckless/plan9 (cf. Uriel) aesthetic which isn't concerned with immutability, referential transparency, or anything else from the FP world.

Fairly practical people though.

I used to write Go but found it intensely tedious, so I went back to Clojure. Been happily clojuring since '08.

Re: Clojure in the Field [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you say the Go community is similar in that regard?

Golang developers follow the suckless/plan9 (cf. Uriel) aesthetic which isn't concerned with immutability, referential transparency, or anything else from the FP world. Fairly practical people though. I used to write Go but found it intensely tedious, so I went back to Clojure. Been happily clojuring since '08.

Where do you work that you use Clojure? It's a great language.

Re: Clojure in the Field [video]

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Informative talk and I really like the vision he presents in the beginning of it. I started with Clojure from python and while a lot of good things are present in python, I really miss the whole notion of "let's step back a bit and ponder whether we are on the right track or not" that is present in the Clojure community. Especially the core team. If I could just get half of what's in Clojure trickle into the mainstre…

What makes me happy about Clojure is that it has the potential to become mainstream, at least among the top 10%.

I know a couple of people who've secretly used Clojure at their Java jobs. I don't know what will happen to them when they go through code review, but it's pretty cool that they can do that.

Re: Clojure in the Field [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Golang developers follow the suckless/plan9 (cf. Uriel) aesthetic which isn't concerned with immutability, referential transparency, or anything else from the FP world. Fairly practical people though. I used to write Go but found it intensely tedious, so I went back to Clojure. Been happily clojuring since '08.

Where do you work that you use Clojure? It's a great language.

Self-employed, I'm the one working on that fashion thing.
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