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Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by mehrzad »

AJ007 wrote: post #106
mehrzad wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a teen who did cut the cord (edit: of Facebook) out of annoyance of rampant reposting and other irritating stuff, I've been fine. I don't want to say I'm popular because I'm not, but if you have a standing within your friend circle you might be able to get them to use your thing. For me, that was my IRC channel.

Ok, I'm an adult in my later 20s. I have a mixture of friends and business associates on Facebook. I have friends who post annoying stuff (blocked from feed) and friends who posted really inappropriate comments on my stuff (unfriended.) Is there some part to teen usage that discourages blocking a friend's feed or unfriending someone?

>Is there some part to teen usage that discourages blocking a friend's feed or unfriending someone?

Possibly, but for me I guess that seemed like losing a valuable news source unless it got really bad, which had happened.. Looking back though, deleting was probably too extreme, and I still use Twitter /and/ Instagram.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by zarify »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #17
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #9

If anyone can leave Facebook it's teens. Their social networks aren't developed/mature enough where they have to depend on other people's social network preferences. Most teens could literally leave on a whim and bring most of their friend with them. I still remember how quick the exodus from ICQ to MSN was (and nobody hated ICQ.. it just kinda happened). Also when a teen tells you that they hate something because th…

>> "If anyone can leave Facebook it's teens. Their social networks aren't developed/mature enough where they have to depend on other people's social network preferences. Most teens could literally leave on a whim and bring most of their friend with them. I still remember how quick the exodus from ICQ to MSN was (and nobody hated ICQ.. it just kinda happened)." I think it's completely the opposite. It's not bringing y…

"It's not bringing your friends to a new network that's the hard part - it's bringing your data (mainly photos). Getting thousands of photos out of Facebook that are nicely tagged and commented on and into another network is impossible."

I'm constantly surprised that people actually care about the commenting part; tagging I can sort of see the value in, but only from the perspective that Facebook becomes your main photo library. Granted I'm not the most sentimental kind of chap, but once uploaded photos have been commented on, liked, +1'd etc, how many people really care about that sort of thing? Presumably people have copies of photos they care about or are deeply personal.

Of course, maybe this is the part of me that always goes "Oh yeah, I do that, and that, and..." when I go to seminars on Autism rearing its head. I'm also somewhat bemused by people's film-era photo albums for the most part, so I guess there's that.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by zarify »

mrwnmonm wrote: post #59

i don't like facebook, but i think it's the only service that got the social network right, just tell me what are the real competitors to facebook, don't say G+

I suspect that no answer will make you happy here, since a social network "getting it right" is where all the people are. You can't be getting it right if a significant number of people aren't there, and you can't be a competitor unless you're getting it right (the threshold for 'significant' seems to mainly depend on which network you personally use ;P).

I'm one of those strange people who is perfectly happy on G+. I was 'friends' with a significantly larger number of people I knew in meatspace when I was on Facebook compared to G+, but they were people I had lost touch with for a reason (regardless if whether that was my fault or theirs). G+ has allowed me to follow and interact with a broader range of interesting people that I don't know personally or event tangentially, and so to me, that makes it a much more useful social network that Facebook ever was.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by [deleted] »

dkulchenko wrote: post #28

Teen here. I'm firmly in the "hate it but can't stop using it" camp. I've tried G+, and for a brief period a few of my friends tried it as well, but we switched back when it failed to reach critical mass. That's all Facebook has going for it, really, is the people using it; I'm sure most of us would switch to a better network if given the chance, but we won't do it unless a significant majority of our friends come al…

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Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by harshadura »

wambotron wrote: post #83
dkulchenko wrote: post #28

Teen here. I'm firmly in the "hate it but can't stop using it" camp. I've tried G+, and for a brief period a few of my friends tried it as well, but we switched back when it failed to reach critical mass. That's all Facebook has going for it, really, is the people using it; I'm sure most of us would switch to a better network if given the chance, but we won't do it unless a significant majority of our friends come al…

I don't use Facebook personally. My wife and family use it quite heavily, and I've seen the interactions on it. Those relationships you think you're keeping alive by staying on Facebook are not worth keeping, generally. I graduated before social networks were a thing, but I distinctly remember having groups of friends at school who just didn't matter much outside of it. I'm 30 now and only keep in touch with two peop…

true story. agree with you.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by rdl »

gcr wrote: post #104
Perceval wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if I cut myself off of Facebook I'm losing out on a huge, huge percentage of social interaction Is it possible to have a Facebook account but just use it as a back-end? For instance, don't use the website or the app. But use Cue to pull events out onto your calendar, and Verbs to get Facebook chat, and so on? https://www.cueup.com/ http://verbs.im/ Is there a way to use a constellation of apps that access Facebook…

There was a time (maybe it's still possible) when Facebook Chat used XMPP, which means you could use a client like bitlbee or pdigin to connect.

It was never very stable.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by johnchristopher »

dkulchenko wrote: post #62
johnchristopher wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> An important part of it mentioned elsewhere in the thread is the fact that Facebook basically acts as a glorified address book/communications hub - if I want Chris to come to my party or add him to a group conversation about something or share a picture with him, all I need is his name. Not an email, not a phone number, just a name. It's pretty incredible if you think about it. Nothing else comes close. I thought I…

Of the few hundred friends I have on Facebook (almost all under 18), not one is using a pseudonym. Not sure where you heard that.

I believe I read it here when the google plus real name policy was debated.

Here's an old article mentionning this fake name trend: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/oct/02/facebook-child...

I am not a teen anymore but I find this surprising because IRC, MSN was all the rage when I was younger and nickname was really the norm. Just like those _xx_daemon_xx_@hotmail.com addresses.

I am a supporter of half-anonymous practices and I am surprised it's not more widespread than I believed.

Update: And from http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2013/Teens-Social-Media-A... I can see fake names seem to be marginal, with people managing at least one real/official account.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by 6d0debc071 »

mosqutip wrote: post #30
dkulchenko wrote: post #28

Teen here. I'm firmly in the "hate it but can't stop using it" camp. I've tried G+, and for a brief period a few of my friends tried it as well, but we switched back when it failed to reach critical mass. That's all Facebook has going for it, really, is the people using it; I'm sure most of us would switch to a better network if given the chance, but we won't do it unless a significant majority of our friends come al…

I think pretty much everyone who uses Facebook is, at least partially, in this mindset. The network is so large that people feel as though they're missing out if they leave (whether or not that is actually true).

When people wanted to organise birthday parties at my last office they just added it as an appointment in the calendar. I suspect that if most email clients ever are well integrated with calendars then that'll probably be the end for facebook. ATM, however, there's no good calendar software integrated into most email clients so arranging a meet - even if you've got the social connections stored on your phone - is a pain in the neck.

:/

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by __--__ »

genwin wrote: post #66
dkulchenko wrote: post #28

Teen here. I'm firmly in the "hate it but can't stop using it" camp. I've tried G+, and for a brief period a few of my friends tried it as well, but we switched back when it failed to reach critical mass. That's all Facebook has going for it, really, is the people using it; I'm sure most of us would switch to a better network if given the chance, but we won't do it unless a significant majority of our friends come al…

So thankful that Facebook came after all my friends got email! Only one got sucked into Facebook.

You're lucky, then. Facebook didn't become big until after all my friends were using email and AIM. They still switched to facebook because it's easier than email and AIM. I sent one of them an email last month and they told me they were confused because it didn't have a "like" button on it. o_O

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by schuylerlarson »

coryl wrote: post #108
NoPiece wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Photos didn't keep teens from jumping to Facebook form MySpace.

Myspace's photo experience was terrible.

This is what people will say about Twitter, Facebook, and Gplus in a year from now.
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