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Getting a job in San Francisco

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Re: Getting a job in San Francisco

#42
As a junior web developer currently looking for my first full-time job programming in San Francisco, this all rings very true, and is a great summary of the job-hunting experience in the city. In my experience, referrals helped more than in the original poster's experience. Usually a referral skips me ahead to step 3 in the process (as laid out in the post).

Re: Getting a job in San Francisco

#43

This is a very well written piece with lots of good advice. Thanks a lot for writing this.

> This is a very well written It may contain some interesting points, but it is obviously written by an ESL writer.

The ESL-voice was part of the charm. It adds a note of authenticity. :-)

Re: Getting a job in San Francisco

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post #41

Where do these salary numbers come from?

I have to agree, 150k for senior engineer? I would say 100-120k for senior engineer, 75-100k for engineer, 50-60k for intern.

For the Bay Area these days, those numbers seem about right. Big companies pay 100k to new grads

Re: Getting a job in San Francisco

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The government doesn't prevent you from giving actionable feedback to the person you didn't hire, it just gives the person you didn't hire the ability to sue you should you not hire them based on some criteria (race, sex, religion, or whatever their lawyer can argue).

I thought the real reason was that if you have a candidate that is, say, Black, and you tell him that you didn't hire him because you "felt that he didn't have enough knowledge of Ruby", he would be able to sue you if he found out you hired someone who supposedly has the same level of knowledge of ruby as him.

Sorta. The real reason is that you're giving the other party information that they can use in court. It's the same basic principle as "don't talk to the police without a lawyer" -- you can argue that it's paranoid, but it's a functional sort of paranoia. You have everything to lose and very little to gain.

Re: Getting a job in San Francisco

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not only in France, it's in all Europe. Salaries in Germany, The Netherlands, UK and so on are much much lower than in SF or NY. Developer jobs that pay more than 60k euro are few and far between. A 50k+ job is already above average and upgrading is not going to be easy.

The difference is, Europe see developers as commodities. They don't care, they don't need them as much as they do in San Francisco. San Francisco see developers as the only way to achieve their project they just raised 10 millions for. You're gold to them, they accept to pay a higher price. In Europe most young developers want to be Product Manager (or any Manager positions), most developers in SF don't care about th…

Exactly This. MBA's aren't a joke in EU. They are actually taken seriously..

Re: Getting a job in San Francisco

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> But being rejected by a team because you’re not a fit doesn’t mean you can’t try another within the same company, if the company is big enough (Apple, Google, etc).

Google's teams don't hire; Google hires (teams aren't even able to influence the process, by design) -- then you get placed on a team.

Re: Getting a job in San Francisco

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post #15

To be honest, this makes me want to get a job in Paris. The way Fabien describes SF as a Mecca evokes the sense of wonder Woody Allen had about the City of Love: You know, I sometimes think, how is anyone ever gonna come up with a book, or a painting, or a symphony, or a sculpture that can compete with a great city. You can't. Because you look around and every street, every boulevard, is its own special art form and…

If you can work remomtely, sure. Because those interesting projects will certainly not be in Paris.

Re: Getting a job in San Francisco

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post #15

To be honest, this makes me want to get a job in Paris. The way Fabien describes SF as a Mecca evokes the sense of wonder Woody Allen had about the City of Love: You know, I sometimes think, how is anyone ever gonna come up with a book, or a painting, or a symphony, or a sculpture that can compete with a great city. You can't. Because you look around and every street, every boulevard, is its own special art form and…

I do love the lifestyle we have in Paris, I think anyone being able to spend a year there should feel very fortunate. Of course French might not agree, but traveling months per year the recents years, I'm always happy to come back.

Yes Fabien, you are happy to come back because you come back for vacation. If you do a typical 9 to 7 slaving away in Paris you will certainly see none of it.
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