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I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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One more reason why guns laws won't do anything without more information on what exactly they hope to achieve by passing them. I personally enjoy living in a city that bans knives and guns. I find it comforting to know that it's not likely for someone I pass to have a gun. I also can't go a single day without passing a dozen cops. However, there is plenty of data telling us there isn't enough data to make arguments o…

What city do you live in? I thought Chicago was the toughest city for knife laws and a blade under 2 inches is still legal there. Who took Chicago's crown? UPDATED: I did a little research and it seems that Pell City, Alabama has taken Chicago's crown: Sec. 13-25. - Weapons — Carrying off of one's premises. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry off of his premises any knife or instrument of like kind or pistol…

State preemption nullifies this law WRT to handguns, as is true in most states.

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One more reason why guns laws won't do anything without more information on what exactly they hope to achieve by passing them. I personally enjoy living in a city that bans knives and guns. I find it comforting to know that it's not likely for someone I pass to have a gun. I also can't go a single day without passing a dozen cops. However, there is plenty of data telling us there isn't enough data to make arguments o…

> I believe in funding studies that can give us an answer to that very problem. Sadly, the gun lobby does not believe in funding such studies. That fact alone is extremely suggestive.

No, we don't believe in funding studies by people who believe that guns are/should be "dirty, deadly and banned" (http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/02/12/why-the-cen...).

If you're neutral on the subject, you shouldn't want junk science to be funded.

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Your whole premise is false: keeping and bearing arms is much safer than driving cars. I can go into details as to why I believe that's the case, but to start with, whenever I walk outside the door I put my carry gun into a holster, and then never take it out until I return home. So it's just sitting there on my hip under my shirt or vest, not much of a danger to anyone as long as I keep it away from an MRI machine's…

I think you might be arguing against something that I didn't actually say. The operative words in "concealed carry license" and "hunting license" is "license", which was exactly my point. The number of printing press deaths in the US, and likely worldwide is probably quite small.

A "hunting license" gives you the ability to take an animal, not to own a firearm.

And in most states (outside of the most infringing states -- my home state of NY is a great example), a Conceal Carry license is "how" you can carry a handgun on your person - and not the ability to own one.

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Your whole premise is false: keeping and bearing arms is much safer than driving cars. I can go into details as to why I believe that's the case, but to start with, whenever I walk outside the door I put my carry gun into a holster, and then never take it out until I return home. So it's just sitting there on my hip under my shirt or vest, not much of a danger to anyone as long as I keep it away from an MRI machine's…

While your stats are true, people typically aren't aiming their car at someone.

People typically aren't aiming their guns at someone, either.

The statistics he listed were also for accidental deaths, in both cases.

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I think you might be arguing against something that I didn't actually say. The operative words in "concealed carry license" and "hunting license" is "license", which was exactly my point. The number of printing press deaths in the US, and likely worldwide is probably quite small.

A "hunting license" gives you the ability to take an animal, not to own a firearm. And in most states (outside of the most infringing states -- my home state of NY is a great example), a Conceal Carry license is "how" you can carry a handgun on your person - and not the ability to own one.

A hunting license also gives you the ability to carry a loaded long gun in a variety of places it is otherwise illegal, due mostly to anti-poaching laws.

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Your whole premise is false: keeping and bearing arms is much safer than driving cars. I can go into details as to why I believe that's the case, but to start with, whenever I walk outside the door I put my carry gun into a holster, and then never take it out until I return home. So it's just sitting there on my hip under my shirt or vest, not much of a danger to anyone as long as I keep it away from an MRI machine's…

I think you might be arguing against something that I didn't actually say. The operative words in "concealed carry license" and "hunting license" is "license", which was exactly my point. The number of printing press deaths in the US, and likely worldwide is probably quite small.

You seem to have not noticed how printing presses, and newfangled movie projectors and radio transmitters, were instrumental in arranging the deaths of a quarter billion disarmed people by their own governments in the 20th century. You simply can't achieve that level of mass murder if you're limited to getting up on a soap box, word of mouth, etc.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_Shootings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_v._City_of_Oakland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton#Assassination_by_C... And for you fans of enterprise solutions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_firebombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_hiroshima http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising ~ Your mora…

Heh, so out of the millions of policemen and militants in the world, that protect the billions out there, you found a handful that have gone bad. Sure, let's let anyone kill anyone then! Moral reasoning! Heh, I'm you advice, kid.

Heh, Because having a six-figure salary (at a top software company!) automatically proves your superiority in all subjects.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you might be arguing against something that I didn't actually say. The operative words in "concealed carry license" and "hunting license" is "license", which was exactly my point. The number of printing press deaths in the US, and likely worldwide is probably quite small.

You seem to have not noticed how printing presses, and newfangled movie projectors and radio transmitters, were instrumental in arranging the deaths of a quarter billion disarmed people by their own governments in the 20th century. You simply can't achieve that level of mass murder if you're limited to getting up on a soap box, word of mouth, etc.

Hang on, you're now arguing the rather vague second amendment is inviolable but the first caused Hitler? Come on.

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60 fatal gun accidents per day? Way way off. It's measured in the low hundreds per year, not around 21,000 annual. Cars however...30,000ish accidental per year. (USA numbers)

Wrong. Do more more research.

31k gun deaths in 2010

http://webappa.cdc.gov/cgi-bin/broker.exe

On average, 33 gun homicides were committed each day for the years 2005-2010 -- WISQARS Injury Mortality Reports, 1999-2010

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What city do you live in? I thought Chicago was the toughest city for knife laws and a blade under 2 inches is still legal there. Who took Chicago's crown? UPDATED: I did a little research and it seems that Pell City, Alabama has taken Chicago's crown: Sec. 13-25. - Weapons — Carrying off of one's premises. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry off of his premises any knife or instrument of like kind or pistol…

State preemption nullifies this law WRT to handguns, as is true in most states.

From the beginning my comment has been restricted to the regulation of knives.
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