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I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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post #33

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Oh? Is it? How would you have preferred to see this reported? Is it just that Mother Jones published it? Is it something he said? Is it the fact that he destroyed the gun afterwards?

> How would you have preferred to see this reported? What "this"? That somebody built a rifle from a kit is not exactly newsworthy.

I had no clue that it was legal to build an AK-47 from a kit. I doubt I'm alone.

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#53
post #34

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They expect their government to fail them.

No, most gun ownership is motivated by sexual signalling. Especially as blue collar niches are ravaged by automization, immigration, and outsourcing, it is increasingly difficult to for blue collar males to establish a sense of manhood. A small minority turn to gun culture as a means of reestablishing that sense.

Taking it down a psychological path _maybe_ a bit too far to be useful, but accurate.

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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post #43

One more reason why guns laws won't do anything without more information on what exactly they hope to achieve by passing them. I personally enjoy living in a city that bans knives and guns. I find it comforting to know that it's not likely for someone I pass to have a gun. I also can't go a single day without passing a dozen cops. However, there is plenty of data telling us there isn't enough data to make arguments o…

> I believe in funding studies that can give us an answer to that very problem.

Sadly, the gun lobby does not believe in funding such studies. That fact alone is extremely suggestive.

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They expect their government to fail them.

No, most gun ownership is motivated by sexual signalling. Especially as blue collar niches are ravaged by automization, immigration, and outsourcing, it is increasingly difficult to for blue collar males to establish a sense of manhood. A small minority turn to gun culture as a means of reestablishing that sense.

Extra ordinary claims require extra ordinary proof.

Could you provide at least ONE scientifically accurate source actually proving this obviously biased opinion? Can you provide even one?

Or is this just the standard liberal, pulling information out of your own ass to further your own viewpoint style of thought so common with your type and others on ycombinator.

Also your own words contradict themselves. You open your statement with, "most gun ownership is motivated by...". And then finish your statement with, "A small minority turn to...". Absolutely fascinating you couldn't even go more than a paragraph without contradicting yourself.

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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Here's a summary of the 2011 data from the linked statistics: 8,583 - Homicides by firearms (all types) 323 - Homicides by rifles 1,694 - Homicides by sharp objects (knives, etc) 496 - Homicides by blunt objects (clubs, etc)

The full table for firearms (2011) is: Handguns 6220 Rifles 323 Shotguns 356 Other guns 97 Firearms, type not stated 1587 So, er, yeah. GP is correct in their statement that rifles (indeed, it would seem, all longarms) are less favored for homicide than sharp and blunt objects.

Not really, type not stated just means unknown some of those are clearly going to be Rifles. If 200 of those where Rifles then it would be more popular than blunt objects.

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

#57

Thankfully this is illegal and will remain so in most of the rest of the world. 3% means there are more than 9.4 million assault rifles in US homes. Are they expecting an invasion?

Many are expecting either an invasion or a revolution. There's a disturbingly high rate of revolutionary fantasies among the gun crowd. I have no problem with keeping a gun for this, with the attitude of "and may we never need it", but many people seem positively gleeful when they talk about the possibility of violent armed revolution or resistance.

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

#58
post #43

One more reason why guns laws won't do anything without more information on what exactly they hope to achieve by passing them. I personally enjoy living in a city that bans knives and guns. I find it comforting to know that it's not likely for someone I pass to have a gun. I also can't go a single day without passing a dozen cops. However, there is plenty of data telling us there isn't enough data to make arguments o…

What city do you live in? I thought Chicago was the toughest city for knife laws and a blade under 2 inches is still legal there. Who took Chicago's crown?

UPDATED:

I did a little research and it seems that Pell City, Alabama has taken Chicago's crown:

  Sec. 13-25. - Weapons — Carrying off of one's premises.

  It shall be unlawful for any person to carry off of his premises any knife or
  instrument of like kind or pistol within the city; provided, on the trial for
  such offense the defendant may give in evidence that at the time of carrying
  such weapon or pistol he had good reason to apprehend and attack, which may
  be taken in mitigation of the offense by the judge in trying him; provided
  further, this section shall not apply to persons who are permitted to carry
  such weapons by the laws of the state.

I need to go back through Alabama state law and see how they handle chefs and people that hang sheetrock. I would love to know the back story on this ordinance. As it stands this ordinance seems like an egregious restriction on commerce.

Do you live in Pell City? I would love to hear if you ever see any ramifications of this ordinance in daily life.

[1] http://library.municode.com/HTML/11417/level2/COOR_CH13OFMIP...

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

#59
Yes, there is some issue with untraceable weapons but the real problem with 3D guns isn't that they're untraceable, it's that they're undetectable. An attacker could use an all plastic weapon to get past metal detectors in a court house, airplane, and other secure areas.

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

#60
post #6

Considering that rifles are used to kill fewer people in the United States than knives, fists, hammers, or bats, Mother Jones' attempt at scaring people about those who build their own guns rings a little hallow. But I get it, AK-47s look scary and so we should all be outraged. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/...

AK-47s scare me about as much as any other gun.

It's "good" that rifles are used to kill fewer people than other weapons, and we should choose our battles accordingly.

That doesn't change the fact that I want to make it as hard as possible for crazy people or people on a power trip to be able to fashion machines designed to efficiently kill people like me. That seems like a simple principle.

Maybe the best way to achieve that here is to let these things stay in obscurity. Maybe not.

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