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I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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Substitute "Homebuilt PC without DRM" for AK-47, pretend it was written in 2023, not 2013, and then reread the article as well as the comments at Hacker News.

Your analogy fails because a homebuilt PC without DRM is currently illegal under anti-circumvention laws. EDIT: Obviously the problem is with circumventing the DRM - but in the context of the post I'm responding to (people home building machines with no DRM) I thought I was obvious.

Sources?

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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Considering that rifles are used to kill fewer people in the United States than knives, fists, hammers, or bats, Mother Jones' attempt at scaring people about those who build their own guns rings a little hallow. But I get it, AK-47s look scary and so we should all be outraged. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/...

Here's a summary of the 2011 data from the linked statistics:

  8,583 - Homicides by firearms (all types)
    323 - Homicides by rifles
  1,694 - Homicides by sharp objects (knives, etc)
    496 - Homicides by blunt objects (clubs, etc)

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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So he wears eye protection when using tools, but not when test-firing a homemade AK-47? Idiot.

To be fair, you don't know how many rounds he fired before the pic was taken.

The picture caption is "Firing my new AK. The rifles are popular because they work—every time." ... and his finger is on the trigger, which you're trained never to do unless you're prepared to fire ... so are you assuming he put his glasses on after he raised it into the firing position, and put his finger on the trigger?

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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This has been legal for a very long time, and is the cause of approximately no violence. Much as with the discussion of 3d printed firearms, it's not so much that the behaviors of gun owners and gun builders has changed as it is that the prevailing discourse in the political arena and the news is different. The author refrains from espousing an opinion in the piece, but only just, and frankly I disagree with him. The…

Completely agree. Mother Jones is a known Liberal magazine and despite the approach to not insert the authors opinion, you can clearly see the point of the article is we need to have the ability to register guns with the government. I'm constantly shocked at how uninformed gun control advocates are.

Really? My take-away was that home-built guns are a fascinating and mostly unknown loophole in the law that causes no real problems.

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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post #6

Considering that rifles are used to kill fewer people in the United States than knives, fists, hammers, or bats, Mother Jones' attempt at scaring people about those who build their own guns rings a little hallow. But I get it, AK-47s look scary and so we should all be outraged. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/...

Look scary? Just the media-hyped name alone is enough. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of Americans couldn't distinguish between an AK-47 and a Glock by sight alone. (I'd concede that it may not be a majority, but at least a surprisingly large number.)

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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This has been legal for a very long time, and is the cause of approximately no violence. Much as with the discussion of 3d printed firearms, it's not so much that the behaviors of gun owners and gun builders has changed as it is that the prevailing discourse in the political arena and the news is different. The author refrains from espousing an opinion in the piece, but only just, and frankly I disagree with him. The…

Completely agree. Mother Jones is a known Liberal magazine and despite the approach to not insert the authors opinion, you can clearly see the point of the article is we need to have the ability to register guns with the government. I'm constantly shocked at how uninformed gun control advocates are.

Your post is depressing and self-defeating.

Here is Mother Jones publishing an article which gets to the heart of how difficult gun control is as a practical matter, and what is your reply?

Oh they're a "known Liberal magazine" (as if it mattered).

And you're "shocked at how uninformed gun control advocates are".

Here are your avowed Liberal gun control advocates, making the case that gun control is difficult and impractical, and what are you doing? You're chastising them. No attempt to assuage their concerns, no attempt to highlight the points that make gun control challenging. Nothing except a cultural appeal to people who already agree with you.

Way to move the discussion forward.

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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This has been legal for a very long time, and is the cause of approximately no violence. Much as with the discussion of 3d printed firearms, it's not so much that the behaviors of gun owners and gun builders has changed as it is that the prevailing discourse in the political arena and the news is different. The author refrains from espousing an opinion in the piece, but only just, and frankly I disagree with him. The…

Agreed. This is politically charged linkbait.

Oh? Is it?

How would you have preferred to see this reported?

Is it just that Mother Jones published it? Is it something he said? Is it the fact that he destroyed the gun afterwards?

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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post #16

Substitute "Homebuilt PC without DRM" for AK-47, pretend it was written in 2023, not 2013, and then reread the article as well as the comments at Hacker News.

Your analogy fails because a homebuilt PC without DRM is currently illegal under anti-circumvention laws. EDIT: Obviously the problem is with circumventing the DRM - but in the context of the post I'm responding to (people home building machines with no DRM) I thought I was obvious.

Say what? What part does my non-homebuilt computer contain that makes it legal, which a DRM-free homebuilt computer would lack, making it illegal?

Re: I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable

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Completely agree. Mother Jones is a known Liberal magazine and despite the approach to not insert the authors opinion, you can clearly see the point of the article is we need to have the ability to register guns with the government. I'm constantly shocked at how uninformed gun control advocates are.

Disgusting. If these Obama-worshippers would pause for a moment in the adoration of their "Saint", they might see that he and his administration (DoJ) are responsible for the largest power grab and human rights violation in the history of this country. The Second Amendment is not a "suggestion" or "subject to interpretation" (aside from a constitutional amendment). It is part of the bedrock of this nation that was fo…

> ...the largest power grab and human rights violation in the history of this country.

The history of the country is a long time. Pretty sure slavery was a bigger human rights violation.

But even talking within the last hundred years, pretty sure that would be the Patriot Act along with Homeland Security, TSA, and the rest of the perma-war apparatus wielded against citizens at home.

Those freedoms are more useful on a daily basis to many more of us.

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