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Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by ethnt »

I'm a senior in high school, and I've found that with college coming up, Facebook is becoming increasingly important to talk with the other kids that are in your college class. There's a group for my class, and I've already befriended a few of them. This sort of community isn't found on places like Twitter.

A large part of my high school class is on Twitter, but I can't stand to follow them. Most of them are blithering idiots, spewing incomplete, barely legible sentences about some stupid thing they've done.

I have tried to get people to use Path, but it hasn't caught. I see it as the replacement for Facebook. However, as other commenters have said, it would be impossible for Path to compete with Facebook because they don't have the sheer numbers of people that Facebook has. If I meet someone and want to continue communicating with them online, Facebook is the place to do that: I know that they're there.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by derleth »

LordHumungous wrote: post #92
wambotron wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use Facebook personally. My wife and family use it quite heavily, and I've seen the interactions on it. Those relationships you think you're keeping alive by staying on Facebook are not worth keeping, generally. I graduated before social networks were a thing, but I distinctly remember having groups of friends at school who just didn't matter much outside of it. I'm 30 now and only keep in touch with two peop…

>It saddens me that people feel like they NEED these relationships that would naturally disintegrate without online networks. >When I am trying to find someone to hang with, I just call or text them. It saddens me that you need these relationships that would disintegrate without cellular communications technology.

It saddens me that there are people with friendships that would disintegrate if they left their current job.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

#104

Post by gcr »

Perceval wrote: post #55
dkulchenko wrote: post #28

Teen here. I'm firmly in the "hate it but can't stop using it" camp. I've tried G+, and for a brief period a few of my friends tried it as well, but we switched back when it failed to reach critical mass. That's all Facebook has going for it, really, is the people using it; I'm sure most of us would switch to a better network if given the chance, but we won't do it unless a significant majority of our friends come al…

> if I cut myself off of Facebook I'm losing out on a huge, huge percentage of social interaction Is it possible to have a Facebook account but just use it as a back-end? For instance, don't use the website or the app. But use Cue to pull events out onto your calendar, and Verbs to get Facebook chat, and so on? https://www.cueup.com/ http://verbs.im/ Is there a way to use a constellation of apps that access Facebook…

There was a time (maybe it's still possible) when Facebook Chat used XMPP, which means you could use a client like bitlbee or pdigin to connect.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by TillE »

ethnt wrote: post #101

I'm a senior in high school, and I've found that with college coming up, Facebook is becoming increasingly important to talk with the other kids that are in your college class. There's a group for my class, and I've already befriended a few of them. This sort of community isn't found on places like Twitter. A large part of my high school class is on Twitter, but I can't stand to follow them. Most of them are blitheri…

This is precisely the problem - all current "social networks" are terrible. Facebook will be killed, but it won't be done by incremental change. Social networking needs another revolution, something to make it relevant and exciting as Facebook was in its first few years.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by AJ007 »

mehrzad wrote: post #89
_lex wrote: post #5

I guess facebook has truly become a utility: It's a semi-monopolist users hate, but they find it too hard to cut the cord. Sounds like AT&T, Comcast etc.

As a teen who did cut the cord (edit: of Facebook) out of annoyance of rampant reposting and other irritating stuff, I've been fine. I don't want to say I'm popular because I'm not, but if you have a standing within your friend circle you might be able to get them to use your thing. For me, that was my IRC channel.

Ok, I'm an adult in my later 20s. I have a mixture of friends and business associates on Facebook.

I have friends who post annoying stuff (blocked from feed) and friends who posted really inappropriate comments on my stuff (unfriended.)

Is there some part to teen usage that discourages blocking a friend's feed or unfriending someone?

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by xentronium »

superuser2 wrote: post #79
dkulchenko wrote: post #28

Teen here. I'm firmly in the "hate it but can't stop using it" camp. I've tried G+, and for a brief period a few of my friends tried it as well, but we switched back when it failed to reach critical mass. That's all Facebook has going for it, really, is the people using it; I'm sure most of us would switch to a better network if given the chance, but we won't do it unless a significant majority of our friends come al…

>all I need is his name. Not an email, not a phone number, just a name. It's pretty incredible if you think about it. Nothing else comes close. This is the primary value proposition of Facebook for me, and why I continue to defend real-name policies. Not having to mess with a set of aliases is really quite convenient.

There is a lot of difference between being able to set/search by real name and being forced to do so.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by coryl »

NoPiece wrote: post #76
k-mcgrady wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "If anyone can leave Facebook it's teens. Their social networks aren't developed/mature enough where they have to depend on other people's social network preferences. Most teens could literally leave on a whim and bring most of their friend with them. I still remember how quick the exodus from ICQ to MSN was (and nobody hated ICQ.. it just kinda happened)." I think it's completely the opposite. It's not bringing y…

Photos didn't keep teens from jumping to Facebook form MySpace.

Myspace's photo experience was terrible.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by inerte »

gcr wrote: post #104
Perceval wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if I cut myself off of Facebook I'm losing out on a huge, huge percentage of social interaction Is it possible to have a Facebook account but just use it as a back-end? For instance, don't use the website or the app. But use Cue to pull events out onto your calendar, and Verbs to get Facebook chat, and so on? https://www.cueup.com/ http://verbs.im/ Is there a way to use a constellation of apps that access Facebook…

There was a time (maybe it's still possible) when Facebook Chat used XMPP, which means you could use a client like bitlbee or pdigin to connect.

It's still possible. I used pidgin today for Facebook Chat.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by lelandbatey »

count wrote: post #90
Androsynth wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If anyone can leave Facebook it's teens. Couldnt disagree more. Teens are the most-dependent age group on fb's fake social interactions. I am 32 and I could leave fb in a second. That is because I realize that im not being social by liking posts or commenting on photos or any of the other common flows. Thats not social! Plus there is not nearly the peer pressure at my age that there is for teenagers to do that type…

Why are they fake social interactions? Any bit of connection to other people is a social interaction. For some, it's a major part of their social interaction with peers. For others, it's a small bit part. It's definitely not 'fake' though. They are other people clicking that like button, and not some anonymous random internet strangers, like on Reddit or HN where the up/down arrows are used. You KNOW someone was look…

I don't think so. I find it more like meta-interaction. You're interacting with the results or consequences of someone else's interactions.

If you're actually talking or communicating, via exchanges of comments or instant messages then I feel that's interaction.

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