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Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by hayksaakian »

saraid216 wrote: post #27
JoeKM wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Posts like yours always show up too. It's cyclic insanity on HN. Any Facebook thread devolves into: "I don't use Facebook." and "Why do people on HN hate Facebook?" Any PHP post devolves into: "I hate PHP." and "Why do HNers hate PHP?" Any Google post devolves into "I hate Google." and "Why do HNers hate Google?" Any Apple post.. On and on and on.

I feel like someone should actually go through old threads that no one is updating anymore and just analyze frequency and timing.

this is true on reddit, and other social sites.

1st day/time X is (+over the top adjectives) good / bad 2nd day/time X is actually bad / good 3rd day/time Why do people argue about whether is actually bad / good 4th date/time meta post about meta post

repeat the following week/month/year/etc.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by chm »

Zelphyr wrote: post #52

"Facebook is the living dead: the most popular, least relevant social network where teenagers and adults alike gather out of fear of missing out on things that don't even make them happy." Best description of Facebook I've ever read.

I agree.

I have looked back only once since quitting Facebook three years ago. That was yesterday, when I met with old-time friends who suggested I should keep a page in order to get in more frequent contact with them.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by wambotron »

dkulchenko wrote: post #28

Teen here. I'm firmly in the "hate it but can't stop using it" camp. I've tried G+, and for a brief period a few of my friends tried it as well, but we switched back when it failed to reach critical mass. That's all Facebook has going for it, really, is the people using it; I'm sure most of us would switch to a better network if given the chance, but we won't do it unless a significant majority of our friends come al…

I don't use Facebook personally. My wife and family use it quite heavily, and I've seen the interactions on it.

Those relationships you think you're keeping alive by staying on Facebook are not worth keeping, generally. I graduated before social networks were a thing, but I distinctly remember having groups of friends at school who just didn't matter much outside of it. I'm 30 now and only keep in touch with two people from HS. They were my best friends at the time, and have largely stayed that way.

When I am trying to find someone to hang with, I just call or text them. There's no back and forth online with everyone watching our conversation, liking or commenting on it. There is no judgment.

My wife has almost everyone from high school added as friends on Facebook, but when it comes down to finding a real friend when she needs one, not a single one of them are there. Sure, they'll like a status or comment on something she writes, but none of it means anything.

It saddens me that people feel like they NEED these relationships that would naturally disintegrate without online networks.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by ethnt »

johnchristopher wrote: post #56
dkulchenko wrote: post #28

Teen here. I'm firmly in the "hate it but can't stop using it" camp. I've tried G+, and for a brief period a few of my friends tried it as well, but we switched back when it failed to reach critical mass. That's all Facebook has going for it, really, is the people using it; I'm sure most of us would switch to a better network if given the chance, but we won't do it unless a significant majority of our friends come al…

> An important part of it mentioned elsewhere in the thread is the fact that Facebook basically acts as a glorified address book/communications hub - if I want Chris to come to my party or add him to a group conversation about something or share a picture with him, all I need is his name. Not an email, not a phone number, just a name. It's pretty incredible if you think about it. Nothing else comes close. I thought I…

Within my friends (high school), some use pseudonyms (or middle names as last names) to avoid being seen in revealing photos by colleges or employers.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by vacri »

anxx wrote: post #53
prezjordan wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I left, then got an internship in the valley and needed a way to interact with my fellow interns before flying out. So I came crawling back. Everything you've said resonates with me - "not particularly close to" is also a HUGE chunk of my social circle. Makes you think, though, do I really need to keep in touch with these people? If I really needed to, I could find a way (call, SMS, email, etc).

I have gone cold turkey from Facebook, after years of checking/updating multiple times a day. And it wasn't hard, because I just realized that I wasn't interested in the lives of the 80% "acquantainces" any more. The fact that somebody I knew at some point got married is really not important to me (and my "Like" doesn't mean much to them). And I feel that if I need to contact a friend after a long time, it is rather…

I log into facebook about once every three months, usually when someone tells me in meatspace 'I sent you something on FB', like the invite details to a party. When there I have a poke around, and see how banal the day-to-day feed is.

On the up side, I sometimes have a chat with a random friend I met on my travels, but that in itself is not worth being sucked into the facebook machine, which is basically treading social water.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by vacri »

xpose2000 wrote: post #12

Next headline. . . "Teens hate parents, but Can't Leave". Give me a break.

Sign of the times: yesterday in the paper I saw an article stating how the price of raising a kid to age 24 has risen in recent years.

24!? I actually laughed out loud, long, and lusty.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by mladenkovacevic »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #54
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to stereotype teens since I'm sure there are a lot of mature, insightful teenagers, but do you think most teens place a lot of importance on their data? Do they want to keep and treasure all their selfies and random party pics well into their college years? 16-21 is like a personality black hole for most people. It's a time when you're super self-absorbed and you're living from moment to moment, literall…

As a 22 year old I grew up with social networks, and it was also the time when digital cameras where first becoming more prevalent, so there are photos I have of me online stretching back to when I was 14. Every now and then I enjoy looking back on those photos. It's not like my profile is filled with photos of me. It's photos of me with other people. Friends I don't know anymore, ex-girlfriends, and people I still k…

Maybe it's a generational thing then; digitally native millennials vs. gen-y or something. Either way, a decade makes a big difference in how you use the technology around you.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by mehrzad »

_lex wrote: post #5

I guess facebook has truly become a utility: It's a semi-monopolist users hate, but they find it too hard to cut the cord. Sounds like AT&T, Comcast etc.

As a teen who did cut the cord (edit: of Facebook) out of annoyance of rampant reposting and other irritating stuff, I've been fine. I don't want to say I'm popular because I'm not, but if you have a standing within your friend circle you might be able to get them to use your thing. For me, that was my IRC channel.

Re: Teenagers Hate Facebook, but They're Not Logging Off

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Post by count »

Androsynth wrote: post #77
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #9

If anyone can leave Facebook it's teens. Their social networks aren't developed/mature enough where they have to depend on other people's social network preferences. Most teens could literally leave on a whim and bring most of their friend with them. I still remember how quick the exodus from ICQ to MSN was (and nobody hated ICQ.. it just kinda happened). Also when a teen tells you that they hate something because th…

>If anyone can leave Facebook it's teens. Couldnt disagree more. Teens are the most-dependent age group on fb's fake social interactions. I am 32 and I could leave fb in a second. That is because I realize that im not being social by liking posts or commenting on photos or any of the other common flows. Thats not social! Plus there is not nearly the peer pressure at my age that there is for teenagers to do that type…

Why are they fake social interactions? Any bit of connection to other people is a social interaction. For some, it's a major part of their social interaction with peers. For others, it's a small bit part. It's definitely not 'fake' though. They are other people clicking that like button, and not some anonymous random internet strangers, like on Reddit or HN where the up/down arrows are used. You KNOW someone was looking at your post, and felt a connection enough to you or it to signal so through a comment or a 'like'.
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