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Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

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Re: Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

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I supported Obama and worked for the campaign in 2008. I'm sad to see that this administration has been more aggressive in leak persecution than GWB.

I don't think there is anything wrong in pursuing illegal leaks of classified information. I DO think it's wrong to target bona fide journalists for criminal prosecution based on their reporting. The optics of this kind of thing are bad no matter how you look at it.

As a reporter, you're allowed to ask a question. You have no right to information a source is legally required to withhold. That said, if they violate that requirement, it's not your fault. Obtaining the private emails of journalists is crossing a line. It makes it impossible for a journalist to guarantee the safety of their sources.

I think Holder is on pretty thin ice here and generations of future journalists are going to look at what happened and adjust their methods. As citizens, we have a right to know what our government does even if it doesn't want us to.

If a person with information decides to risk their freedom so that citizens can be informed, that's their choice. Attacking the fifth estate will make revolutionaries of us all.

Re: Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

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post #3

I supported Obama and worked for the campaign in 2008. I'm sad to see that this administration has been more aggressive in leak persecution than GWB. I don't think there is anything wrong in pursuing illegal leaks of classified information. I DO think it's wrong to target bona fide journalists for criminal prosecution based on their reporting. The optics of this kind of thing are bad no matter how you look at it. As…

Yeah, I thought this was settled with the Pentagon Papers. But apparently everyone changed their mind after Wikileaks, and without court oversight.

Can Fox News sue here? It seems like calling him a co-conspirator (aka journalist) just to get the search warrant with no plans to charge him is super fishy.

And even more puzzling than Holder's actions, why isn't Fox News trumpeting this instead of Benghazi?

Re: Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

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post #3

I supported Obama and worked for the campaign in 2008. I'm sad to see that this administration has been more aggressive in leak persecution than GWB. I don't think there is anything wrong in pursuing illegal leaks of classified information. I DO think it's wrong to target bona fide journalists for criminal prosecution based on their reporting. The optics of this kind of thing are bad no matter how you look at it. As…

Adjust their methods, I suggest that this wasn't about having journalist adjust their methods but to intimidate anyone in government from speaking out without approval. Approved leaks, like the recent IRS about targeting specific groups is an example of what is allowed. The leaks to this Fox reporter and the not so long ago prosecution of Thomas Drake are all about silencing people who know whats wrong from talking because now they will get the reporter to reveal their sources directly or indirectly.

Re: Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

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I supported Obama and worked for the campaign in 2008. I'm sad to see that this administration has been more aggressive in leak persecution than GWB. I don't think there is anything wrong in pursuing illegal leaks of classified information. I DO think it's wrong to target bona fide journalists for criminal prosecution based on their reporting. The optics of this kind of thing are bad no matter how you look at it. As…

Yeah, I thought this was settled with the Pentagon Papers. But apparently everyone changed their mind after Wikileaks, and without court oversight. Can Fox News sue here? It seems like calling him a co-conspirator (aka journalist) just to get the search warrant with no plans to charge him is super fishy. And even more puzzling than Holder's actions, why isn't Fox News trumpeting this instead of Benghazi?

Nothing they do makes any sense. The ruling elite live in a different world from us commoners. Holder probably thought people would view him as a hero or something.

Re: Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

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I supported Obama and worked for the campaign in 2008. I'm sad to see that this administration has been more aggressive in leak persecution than GWB. I don't think there is anything wrong in pursuing illegal leaks of classified information. I DO think it's wrong to target bona fide journalists for criminal prosecution based on their reporting. The optics of this kind of thing are bad no matter how you look at it. As…

Adjust their methods, I suggest that this wasn't about having journalist adjust their methods but to intimidate anyone in government from speaking out without approval. Approved leaks, like the recent IRS about targeting specific groups is an example of what is allowed. The leaks to this Fox reporter and the not so long ago prosecution of Thomas Drake are all about silencing people who know whats wrong from talking b…

I agree. I'm pretty sure Obama does this to create a chilling effect for whistleblowers more than anything else, which means he values government secrecy very highly and it's the exact opposite of what he promised.

Re: Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

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I supported Obama and worked for the campaign in 2008. I'm sad to see that this administration has been more aggressive in leak persecution than GWB. I don't think there is anything wrong in pursuing illegal leaks of classified information. I DO think it's wrong to target bona fide journalists for criminal prosecution based on their reporting. The optics of this kind of thing are bad no matter how you look at it. As…

The idea that Obama has been more aggressive than Bush in leak investigations is popular, but I'm not sure it's anything more than circumstantial. Here are the leak prosecutions that have actually happened since he took office:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5701813

Re: Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

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I supported Obama and worked for the campaign in 2008. I'm sad to see that this administration has been more aggressive in leak persecution than GWB. I don't think there is anything wrong in pursuing illegal leaks of classified information. I DO think it's wrong to target bona fide journalists for criminal prosecution based on their reporting. The optics of this kind of thing are bad no matter how you look at it. As…

Yeah, I thought this was settled with the Pentagon Papers. But apparently everyone changed their mind after Wikileaks, and without court oversight. Can Fox News sue here? It seems like calling him a co-conspirator (aka journalist) just to get the search warrant with no plans to charge him is super fishy. And even more puzzling than Holder's actions, why isn't Fox News trumpeting this instead of Benghazi?

There was a warrant, so I'm not sure what lack of court oversight you're talking about.
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