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Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp

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Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp

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The issues is that, for every Kiera Wilmot, there are a dozen kids, many of them with substantial potential, who adhere to the rules and elect not to detonate draino bombs in the school bathroom, but no one makes an effort to aid them.

This story is just indicative of the perverse nature of publicity: those that break the rules are the ones who reap the rewards and publicity.

Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp

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What kind of example does this set? Now we're encouraging more kids to blow stuff up at school, great!

If only we really were... Blowing up stuff is one of the best introductions to science a kid can get! If a kid today were to do now what I did as a kid, they'd have a criminal record a mile long, destined to be nothing more than a drain on society since they'd be permanently branded and unemployable in most places. That's not a good way to build up your future economy and industry, not to mention international compet…

People argue as though there is some sort of dichotomy; that either she ought to be prosecuted or exonerated entirely. Both are absurd. What she did was dangerous and clearly impermissible, and the school should take action. I don't think that this warranted legal action, but I've learned not to assert things about the law, which is a complex and unintuitive beast. There is a possibility of reasonable middle ground in which we don't permanently impede someone's ability to live their life while also deterring them from detonating explosives in school.

Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp

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"I'd like to be careful with the science I do, always remember to follow directions, and be aware of peer pressure." - Kiera

How uncomfortably scripted is that?! It's a really bizarre nod to the allegations that she was being reckless.

Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp

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I'm glad the charges were dropped. No one was hurt and that fact needs to be considered before ruining a kid's life. But in all likelihood she built a Drano bomb, probably after watching one of the millions of YouTube videos on the subject, and blew it up on school property. She's not a martyr for science, nor a role model for girls in STEM, and frankly it is a little offensive that's the line people are sticking wit…

> No one was hurt and that fact needs to be considered before ruining a kid's life. Victimless crimes are 86% of the federal prison population. There is a bigger problem of what types of crimes the state is spending it's time enforcing. http://www.policymic.com/articles/8558/why-we-need-prison-re...

Victimless crimes including drunk driving, weapons charges, immigration and liquor law violations. Moreover the statistics are listed for the most serious offense that the individual was incarcerated for. So it is very likely that the someone is serving time under a draconian drug law that also committed a lesser violent crime.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p11.pdf

Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp

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Consult a lawyer, but there can't be any repercussions to saying "no". Once it's sealed, legally it is as if it never happened.

It still feels like lying

Re-writing history is an established common-law practice:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expungement

(and let me emphasize: consult a lawyer. I am not one, and neither this nor my other comments constitute not legal advice)

Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp

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post #51

The issues is that, for every Kiera Wilmot, there are a dozen kids, many of them with substantial potential, who adhere to the rules and elect not to detonate draino bombs in the school bathroom, but no one makes an effort to aid them. This story is just indicative of the perverse nature of publicity: those that break the rules are the ones who reap the rewards and publicity.

The publicity came from the draconian treatment of her, not from the explosion.

Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp

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FWIW, USCIS insists on all of its forms that you must tell them if you've ever been charged or convicted of a crime, even if your record was sealed or you were pardoned.

Consult a lawyer, but there can't be any repercussions to saying "no". Once it's sealed, legally it is as if it never happened.

Technically true, but if you say no, and they later somehow find out about it, they will say you were misrepresenting yourself to USCIS and ban you from the country for life. This is not hyperbole; that's the response that misrepresentation carries.

Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp

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How would drug dogs sniff out an Airsoft gun?

Perhaps there were things in the trunk a drug dog would smell

Perhaps, but that suggests we haven't really heard the full story why this guy got kicked out.
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