Have any of the rumors that she used this to attack someone been confirmed or denied?
Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/JusticePorn/comments/1ewpyc/kiera_wi...
Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp
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Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp
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I kind of wonder why having her record sealed would matter at all. I suppose it helps keep her off of inconvenient watch lists, but the extensive coverage has almost made her a public figure.
You ever filled out an application and gotten to that ubiquitous question: "Have you ever been arrested for ... or charged with ..."? Sure, this case will always be on the internet, unfortunately. But at least then someone googling will get some context. At the very least she doesn't have to (legally) lie on that question after this.
FWIW, USCIS insists on all of its forms that you must tell them if you've ever been charged or convicted of a crime, even if your record was sealed or you were pardoned.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
You ever filled out an application and gotten to that ubiquitous question: "Have you ever been arrested for ... or charged with ..."? Sure, this case will always be on the internet, unfortunately. But at least then someone googling will get some context. At the very least she doesn't have to (legally) lie on that question after this.
FWIW, USCIS insists on all of its forms that you must tell them if you've ever been charged or convicted of a crime, even if your record was sealed or you were pardoned.
Consult a lawyer, but there can't be any repercussions to saying "no". Once it's sealed, legally it is as if it never happened.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
FWIW, USCIS insists on all of its forms that you must tell them if you've ever been charged or convicted of a crime, even if your record was sealed or you were pardoned.
Consult a lawyer, but there can't be any repercussions to saying "no". Once it's sealed, legally it is as if it never happened.
It still feels like lying
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#46I'm glad the charges were dropped. No one was hurt and that fact needs to be considered before ruining a kid's life. But in all likelihood she built a Drano bomb, probably after watching one of the millions of YouTube videos on the subject, and blew it up on school property. She's not a martyr for science, nor a role model for girls in STEM, and frankly it is a little offensive that's the line people are sticking wit…
I think it's the potential for harm that makes her punishment somewhat justified. Not unlike charging someone for driving drunk, when they haven't actually run anyone over yet. I knew a guy in high school that got expelled in the middle of his senior year, because cops turned up an airsoft gun in the trunk of his car after they brought drug dogs through our school parking lot (this was done routinely, inside the scho…
How would drug dogs sniff out an Airsoft gun?
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kids will do stupid things, but you have to instruct them on not doing stupid things, which is going to include negative consequences for doing stupid things. That's part of growing up.
Except in my day it was detention and a call to your parents. Today it's expulsion and felony charges? Sorry, that's not part of growing up. That's ruining the rest of your life for a stupid mistake (that caused no one harm).
Agreed, expulsion and felony charges are excessive. A girl like this one can understand the stupidity of her actions without career-killing consequences.
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An appropriate negative consequence for this particular stupid thing might have been, for example, a stern admonishment not to do that again, with some explanation of the protocols involved in getting permission for such an experiment. Felony charges are ludicrous, a mindless reaction.
So a question, do scientists not make a distinction between blowing things up for fun and blowing things up for an organized scientific experiment? I understand that blowing things up and having fun can be part of a scientific experiment, but that doesn't mean any time that someone makes an explosion that they're participating in a scientific experiment, unless we're using a very loose definition of the word.
Blowing things up is fun, and kids should be able to blow things up for fun if it gets them interested in science. But they should do it at a safe distance from behind a blast shield. Still fun, but much safer.
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#49That's nice of Space Camp to reach out to her like that. I don't know if Kiera Wilmot is going to be the next brilliant scientist or not but I do know she seemed like a bright, interested student who was unfairly targeted by our schools' protofascist zero tolerance policies. I could imagine it would put a distaste for involvement in science in your mouth if you were persecuted for what's an obvious nothing story, so…
It just blew my mind to think that it was 20 years ago in March that I went to Space Camp o_0
Fun fact, we ended up driving through this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Storm_of_the_Century#Bliz...
from Michigan. It made for a very interesting couple of days sleeping in a courthouse in the northern part of Tennessee and then a Methodist church in the southern part of Tennessee.
Re: Kiera Wilmot is going to Space Camp
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's the potential for harm that makes her punishment somewhat justified. Not unlike charging someone for driving drunk, when they haven't actually run anyone over yet. I knew a guy in high school that got expelled in the middle of his senior year, because cops turned up an airsoft gun in the trunk of his car after they brought drug dogs through our school parking lot (this was done routinely, inside the scho…
How would drug dogs sniff out an Airsoft gun?
Perhaps there were things in the trunk a drug dog would smell