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Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by prewett » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 3:53 PM UTC

twopoint718 wrote: post #29

k0n2ad wrote: post #24

Ubuntu is a fantastic distribution of a magnificent OS. I just wish I could run design apps like Flash and Photoshop on it (and no, GIMP just doesn't do it for me).

As long as you're paying for PS, check out Codeweavers' Crossover Linux. You can run native Windows programs under Linux (Crossover is a tweaked version of Wine). It looks like Photoshop isn't quite there yet though: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/cat/?cat_id=... It is one of the top applications that they are working on: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/toplists/

According to AppDB, Photoshop CS1 works great, so if you have or can procure an older version, this might be an option. (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application...)

If I remember the Wine Weekly News report correctly, I think Disney wanted it working on their Linux machines they used for rendering, and committed back all their fixes to Wine. So whatever that version was is probably pretty usable.

Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by mattyb » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 3:55 PM UTC

sant0sk1 wrote: post #5

I'm excited for the next iteration when they revamp the default theme. Ubuntu owns but it needs to look prettier out of the box to really grab prospective switchers.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009...

"The desktop will have a designer's fingerprints all over it - we're now beginning the serious push to a new look. Brown has served us well but the Koala is considering other options. Come to UDS for a preview of the whole new look."

Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by mattyb » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 4:00 PM UTC

nuclear_eclipse wrote: post #40

ja27 wrote: post #3

Official torrent links here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/

Or more directly: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso... http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.is...

I also grabbed the Kubuntu and Xubuntu LiveCDs so I can try out KDE 4.2 and Xfce without installing the packages.

Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by nfg » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 4:03 PM UTC

halo wrote: post #23

chancho wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can someone with knowledge of the underlying OS mechanisms answer this for me: What is the deal with file access on Windows? In Linux (on the Mac too, I think) I can move, copy and delete files freely, regardless of what applications currently have that file open. On Windows, I always run into some situation where it won't let me do what I want to do because the file is open. So I have to hunt through 10-20 windows t…

It's fixed in Windows 7 by telling you which application is using the file ( http://lifehacker.com/5132227/windows-7-tells-you-why-you-ca... ).

For anyone being annoyed by this in earlier versions Process Explorer http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.asp... allows you to quickly search for handles and identify the offending process.

Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by halo » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 4:05 PM UTC

dschobel wrote: post #4

quoderat wrote: post #2

I am not an anti-Microsoft person, but after having used Linux now without even Windows installed for two years straight, it is actually mentally painful to use Windows. Yeah, use whatever works best for you -- but using Windows these days feels like I'm on my Big Wheel when I was three years old. In a rubber room.

I've never met someone who used any version of windows because they thought it was a reasonable way to interface with your computer, always for application compatibility.

I do. I like Windows a lot. I'm completely platform agnostic and I've used all 3 major platforms at various times but I always come back to Windows.

I think there's a quiet majority of people out there who are perfectly happy with Windows but they don't tend to talk about it, whereas you do tend to get a lot of outspoken Mac and Linux users who are willing to both champion their platform as well as bash Windows at any given opportunity.

Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by mattyb » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 4:07 PM UTC

k0n2ad wrote: post #24

Ubuntu is a fantastic distribution of a magnificent OS. I just wish I could run design apps like Flash and Photoshop on it (and no, GIMP just doesn't do it for me).

Give VirtualBox (http://www.virtualbox.org/) a try. I run Photoshop CS4, Rosetta Stone v3, and backup my BlackBerry inside it with minimal problems. GIMP didn't do it for me either.

Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by mlok » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 4:13 PM UTC

Mongoose wrote: post #13

sant0sk1 wrote: post #5

I'm excited for the next iteration when they revamp the default theme. Ubuntu owns but it needs to look prettier out of the box to really grab prospective switchers.

People have been saying that for 2 years. "The next version" is always when they'll dump the sordid brown.

Around me, people do like the Ubuntu look. But they're neither IT nor marketing savvy, so they're probably wrong :)

Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by mkuhn » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 4:29 PM UTC

mattyb wrote: post #46

k0n2ad wrote: post #24

Ubuntu is a fantastic distribution of a magnificent OS. I just wish I could run design apps like Flash and Photoshop on it (and no, GIMP just doesn't do it for me).

Give VirtualBox ( http://www.virtualbox.org/ ) a try. I run Photoshop CS4, Rosetta Stone v3, and backup my BlackBerry inside it with minimal problems. GIMP didn't do it for me either.

I use VirtualBox as well. And I also use WINE, but even though you can run Office 2K7 (and you can't go around it as a student, in particular as a business student) in WINE, which I do for short edits and to only view documents, I still mainly use Office on the emulated WinXP. Office fells snappier on the emulated machine, and especially because of Antialiasing of fonts text is easier to read. Overall it's just nicer to work with and it crashes a lot less... :-)

I've now been running Ubuntu for over a year for my own side business, for my consulting gig and as a student and I haven't had any issue I couldn't solve and one of the main solutions is to bow to the majority in some cases and use emulated XP or WINE.

Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by mkuhn » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 4:30 PM UTC

10ren wrote: post #38

I thought this release would also be available for ARM, as mentioned here: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/arm-linux The netbook release says it's for Atom (though the compatibility list includes eee PC 701, which has a Celeron - by "Atom" they surely just mean intel-compatible).

The ARM release will follow later, on the 29th I think.

Re: Ubuntu 9.04 released

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Post by mseebach » Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 5:05 PM UTC

halo wrote: post #45

dschobel wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never met someone who used any version of windows because they thought it was a reasonable way to interface with your computer, always for application compatibility.

I do. I like Windows a lot. I'm completely platform agnostic and I've used all 3 major platforms at various times but I always come back to Windows. I think there's a quiet majority of people out there who are perfectly happy with Windows but they don't tend to talk about it, whereas you do tend to get a lot of outspoken Mac and Linux users who are willing to both champion their platform as well as bash Windows at an…

> I think there's a quiet majority of people out there who are perfectly happy with Windows

I think there's a quiet majority out there who's never tried anything but Windows, and think of their computer as nothing more than a tool, completely oblivious to such abstractions as operating systems.