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Re: How Google plans to rule the computing world through Chrome

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FWIW, the company I work at just moved from a windows+office+outlook setup to google apps. And it just worked. Very smooth migration. Just a random datapoint, not claiming its a trend.

and what do you do when the network is down ?

Keep working offline? http://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answ...

Re: How Google plans to rule the computing world through Chrome

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Chromebooks are amazing for business, in my experience. - Collaborating on shared documents in Google Docs is awesome. - Walk up to a Chromebook that's plugged in to the projector, sign in, and show my Presentation. - Hangouts for video conferences. - Chrome Remote Desktop to log in to my desktop when I want to do heavy lifting. - Two-factor Authentication to protect everything.

Yes, those are awesome features, and they might be able to cover 90% of a typical business's use cases. Similarly, lots of open-source alternatives to MS Office, Photoshop, etc. can cover 90% of a typical business's use cases. But the missing 10% is enough to prevent their use in mission-critical tasks, because one unsupported Excel macro is enough to turn an entire spreadsheet into garbage, and you're losing money w…

My whole working life, when Microsoft changes something in Visual Studio, do you know what the only answer has been? Recreate the Project from scratch the new way. Every single time.

So, when you switch to a Google Docs way of life, you don't necessarily import your Office documents into it. For things like Spreadsheets, you might have to recreate them, if they use weird features. It's unfortunate. Moving away from Office is hard, no argument.

Why should I answer a hypothetical where my Chromebox can use absolutely no other software, ever? It's a ridiculous hypothetical.

My Windows box is literally useless to me, if I can't run Visual Studio on it.

My Chromebook is a more secure way and faster to Remote Desktop in to my primary computer, than my Windows Laptop is. Chromebook WILL NOT replace my primary computer, for any time in the immediate future - I work on Windows Applications. That's just my life. But if I were a web developer???

Re: How Google plans to rule the computing world through Chrome

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Or rather, how Google plans to rule the consumer computing world. It's been a while since the average Facebook addict really needed a computer anyway, they can all throw their laptops away and switch full-time to phones and tablets and I won't care. But businesses and professionals have different needs. I don't see web apps and NaCl apps replacing Office suites, IDEs, or 3D graphic design tools anytime in the next de…

I also don't see how anyone can trust Google with any of these technologies considering how they have been butchering all of their existing applications or outright shutting them down. Gmail is a shell of itself. Google Docs are a glorified WYSIWYG editor. They drop products like flies. They explicitly state that their job is to get as close to the creepy line as possible and not cross it. This has bad idea written a…

> Gmail is a shell of itself.

I'm having a hard time thinking of anything GMail used to do, that it doesn't any more. Can you list some?

Re: How Google plans to rule the computing world through Chrome

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FWIW, the company I work at just moved from a windows+office+outlook setup to google apps. And it just worked. Very smooth migration. Just a random datapoint, not claiming its a trend.

and what do you do when the network is down ?

We are in a comment thread for an article that talks about how Google apps work offline... ;)

Re: How Google plans to rule the computing world through Chrome

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I don't think I could disagree with the author more, and I am coming from the perspective of someone who also bought a pixel. (Actually we agree there, it is the best put together machine I've ever used... more on that later.) I'm not running ChromeOS on my pixel right now. I tried it for a weekend, it wasn't my cup of tea, and I slapped Debian onto it instead. No big surprise there, I have different needs from most…

This is really off topic, but could you speak to the battery life of the pixel running Debian? What you're describing is exactly what I'd like to do.

Seems to run between 4 and 5 hours. Not great, but it seems to be about in line with what people get with ChromeOS.

Also I run >3.9.0 kernels from git for clickpad/touchscreen support. Other than that everything is from Wheezy.

Re: How Google plans to rule the computing world through Chrome

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But you wouldn't use Paint. The Windows Photo View and Explorer actually do a more than adequate job. Windows Media Player too does a reasonable job of playing video. Netflix, YouTube and Google Play Movies don't solve the problem of plying my videos. The Mac, modern desktop Linux distos and Windows support the functionality that the OP and you crave out of the box - as do most tables, including the iPad. I just don'…

Yes, YouTube does solve the problem of playing your videos. And sharing them with your friends. And archiving them, in case of disaster. If you're willing to use YouTube, of course. If not, you can use Smugmug or Flickr or Vimeo or... ChromeOS is inherently an operating system that uses the internet to solve users' problems. Expecting ChromeOS to have BUILT-IN ways to do what you want to, is kind of silly, in my mind…

Viewing photographs and videos is something that ChromeOS does. It is not asking too much of it to do it well.

They gave it the ability to play videos and pictures offline because even they know it is absurd to expect the user to upload all their videos and pictures.. at least prior to viewing them. They just did a half-assed job of it.

I tried looking for programs on ChromeOS to install to fix these things, the offerings are either universally abysmal or for once Google has completely failed at search because I failed to find anything that wasn't abysmal.

Re: How Google plans to rule the computing world through Chrome

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But you wouldn't use Paint. The Windows Photo View and Explorer actually do a more than adequate job. Windows Media Player too does a reasonable job of playing video. Netflix, YouTube and Google Play Movies don't solve the problem of plying my videos. The Mac, modern desktop Linux distos and Windows support the functionality that the OP and you crave out of the box - as do most tables, including the iPad. I just don'…

Yes, YouTube does solve the problem of playing your videos. And sharing them with your friends. And archiving them, in case of disaster. If you're willing to use YouTube, of course. If not, you can use Smugmug or Flickr or Vimeo or... ChromeOS is inherently an operating system that uses the internet to solve users' problems. Expecting ChromeOS to have BUILT-IN ways to do what you want to, is kind of silly, in my mind…

"Expecting ChromeOS to have BUILT-IN ways to do what you want to, is kind of silly, in my mind." Why?

Re: How Google plans to rule the computing world through Chrome

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I don't think I could disagree with the author more, and I am coming from the perspective of someone who also bought a pixel. (Actually we agree there, it is the best put together machine I've ever used... more on that later.) I'm not running ChromeOS on my pixel right now. I tried it for a weekend, it wasn't my cup of tea, and I slapped Debian onto it instead. No big surprise there, I have different needs from most…

What browser do you use?

Elinks and chromium.

Re: How Google plans to rule the computing world through Chrome

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I also don't see how anyone can trust Google with any of these technologies considering how they have been butchering all of their existing applications or outright shutting them down. Gmail is a shell of itself. Google Docs are a glorified WYSIWYG editor. They drop products like flies. They explicitly state that their job is to get as close to the creepy line as possible and not cross it. This has bad idea written a…

> Gmail is a shell of itself. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything GMail used to do, that it doesn't any more. Can you list some?

> I'm having a hard time thinking of anything GMail used to do, that it doesn't any more. Can you list some?

Being the new hotness from a company that its cool to love for being a relatively new upstart gaining ground against tech behemoths on every front rather than a well-established offering from a company that its cool to hate for being a well-established tech behemoth, maybe?

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Yes, YouTube does solve the problem of playing your videos. And sharing them with your friends. And archiving them, in case of disaster. If you're willing to use YouTube, of course. If not, you can use Smugmug or Flickr or Vimeo or... ChromeOS is inherently an operating system that uses the internet to solve users' problems. Expecting ChromeOS to have BUILT-IN ways to do what you want to, is kind of silly, in my mind…

"Expecting ChromeOS to have BUILT-IN ways to do what you want to, is kind of silly, in my mind." Why ?

My VCR doesn't have any BUILT-IN movies.

I really, honestly don't mean to be crass, but the analogy is apt to me.

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