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Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by rlpb »

http://valleypatriot.com/methuen-police-arrest-high-school-s... says:

“We took this very seriously,” Chief Solomon said. “He posted a threat in the form of rap where he mentioned the White House, the Boston Marathon bombing, and said ‘everybody you will see what I am going to do, kill people.”

The word "kill" does not appear at all in this rebuttal. Is the rebuttal being selective in what to rebut, too? Are the police misquoting him? What did he really say? Why does this rebuttal not cover this?

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by n3rdy »

Perceval wrote: post #26
mindcrime wrote: post #16

Cam's facebook and pointing to "disturbing" posts like "Fuck politics. Fuck Obama. Fuck the government!" What's disturbing about any of that?

Man, if everyone who had posted "Fuck politics. Fuck Bush. Fuck the government!" were prosecuted as terrorists, there would be no one left on the internet.

Maybe that's where all the anti-war protesters went?

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by nitrogen »

DigitalSea wrote: post #4

Wow, this is disgusting. Is this kid really being held without bail because he posted rap lyrics on Facebook? I feel like we're not hearing the full story here, but either way given his age and the fact they supposedly found nothing to support the claims they're holding him on, this is atrocious and I hope this story comes to light, so it can play out fairly in the public eye under fair scrutiny.

I feel like we're not hearing the full story here...

This is precisely why accusations are so damaging, even if one is acquitted. People assume that there must be more they don't know, and the accused's reputation is forever tainted.

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by nitrogen »

hamburglar wrote: post #51
justanother wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more concerned about the lady who gave Bon Jovi severe chest trauma, thereby giving love a bad name.

That was mere accusation. Clapton confessed.

Should confessions in the absence of evidence really be taken seriously?

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by jmadsen »

dragonikola wrote: post #70
jmadsen wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not enough prison space

Then arrest just enough to fill up the prisons. You think America could ever run short on prison space? Prisons are our fastest growing form of housing.

not gonna sit and go back & forth, but prisons are growing because of current state levels of 115% capacity & federal levels of 136% ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rat... )

I'd say they are "all filled up"

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by aptwebapps »

mc-lovin wrote: post #61
aptwebapps wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you actually read what you linked to? The entirety of the allegations go _way_ beyond that single email.

yes, see my reply above. This is potentially a serious free speech issue, please get all the facts before dismissing it. If the police say "We are arresting person X because of this statement, and they also did some other stuff", then this suggests that the statements are part of the charges. But as I said above, it's hard to know for certain without seeing the actual charges.

To me, there are two issues at hand and the first is whether this statement could be called harassment. I'd say yes, as a part of a larger whole, it can definitely be harassment.

The second is whether law enforcement might call something that should be protected speech harassment and I'm sure that they will and do from time to time. In this particular case I have no problem with calling it harassment if the other allegations are true.

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by lifebar »

btilly wrote: post #36
softbuilder wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haven't heard about this story. Link?

No link. As far as I know, no reporter has ever cared about the story and so it is reported nowhere. I know about it because the guy was married to my half-sibling's half-sibling. Unsurprisingly, they are now getting divorced. My family is involved in various ways, including a custody battle. The whole thing is a clusterfuck that I want to keep my distance from, but can't help hearing about. I'll just say that if you…

"No link. As far as I know, no reporter has ever cared about the story and so it is reported nowhere." And even with reporter such story would be silenced fast. False rape accusation stories are always silenced (just like most of domestic violence stories where perpetrator is woman) since it "misrepresents women, and makes them afraid to report rapes". In where I live if such stories end up in bigger news sites they are removed in a few hours. And we don't even have feminism here...

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by Intermernet »

hamburglar wrote: post #41
qwertzlcoatl wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He confessed repeatedly to be engaged in motherfcking criminal activities.

We need to get Eric Clapton in jail for shooting that Sheriff pronto.

I think Bob Marley shot that Sheriff first. Unlucky Sheriff (very lucky deputy...)

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by Intermernet »

fixxer wrote: post #40

This kid is 100% idiot and deserves some major ridicule, but he isn't a threat and doesn't appear to have done anything actually illegal. This DA is wasting time and money, which offends me far more. I wish terrorists actually did post their intent on Facebook.

What qualifies him as "100%" idiot, deserving of "major ridicule"? Do you know him personally and just thought you'd insult him, or are you basing your derision off one article and a couple of posts online?

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by amirmc »

LaurelCrowned wrote: post #52
btilly wrote: post #28

This sounds to me like nothing more than an abuse of power by a DA. Those are much more common than people realize. As an example, in a recent case that I'm familiar with in Oregon, a man that I personally know was unjustly charged with 4 criminal charges that the DA knew were unjustified. He fought. He won. He now has, in addition to a crushing legal bill, a bill for the time he spent locked up in prison on trumped…

>But in my opinion the biggest single factor is that the DA in question is an investor in the private jail to which he sends people. This is happening more than it should. Lots of hands are reaching into the private prisons industry's resources (cheap labor). Some towns are investing HEAVILY in private prisons. The prisoners that are "good" get to work making products that can easily undercut any competitor. When a w…

Corruption and a new slave trade (of sorts). Wow.
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