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Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by l33tbro »

mintplant wrote: post #22

> "(Expletive) a boston bominb wait till u see the (expletive) I do, I’ma be famous" > The actual line is: > "(Expletive) a boston bominb wait till u see the (expletive) I do, I’ma be famous rapping " http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/05/... > An accused teenage rapper pleaded not guilty today to making a bomb threat on Facebook he warned would eclipse the horror of the Boston Marathon tragedy…

Well, they say that it is China's century. Didn't realize this extended to us replicating their domestic media model and forwarding the State's interest of total civilian control. Silly me.

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by dopamean »

krapp wrote: post #24
D9u wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More to the point, what's criminal about it?

If just talking smack about Obama and the government in general is illegal then there's not going to be enough floorspace in Cuba to hold all the 'terrorists.'

Yeah and think of how many of them are at Fox News. Ted Nugent literally said on TV that if Obama won in November then he (Nugent) was either gonna end up dead or in jail. If that's not a specific threat against an individual then how can this kid's rap be?

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by protomyth »

The Supreme Court case to look up is Virginia v. Black (2003). It has the definition of a true threat as "those statements where the speaker means to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals."

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by krapp »

dopamean wrote: post #32
krapp wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If just talking smack about Obama and the government in general is illegal then there's not going to be enough floorspace in Cuba to hold all the 'terrorists.'

Yeah and think of how many of them are at Fox News. Ted Nugent literally said on TV that if Obama won in November then he (Nugent) was either gonna end up dead or in jail. If that's not a specific threat against an individual then how can this kid's rap be?

I would not be at all surprised if the Secret Service have their own guest house at Casa Del Nugent, as often as they probably have to stop by for a 'chat.'

But what can you do, the right to wave guns around and hate the government is practically baked into the Constitution (to a point.) A lot of my facebook friends agree with him, and use Glenn Beck as a primary source for all their Obama news, and honestly believe the country would be a better place with fewer laws and more dakka and the White House burned to the ground. I'm Texan, so that kind of thing comes with the territory.

But as long as you don't actually do anything you should be free to say what you like.

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by gizmo686 »

btilly wrote: post #28

This sounds to me like nothing more than an abuse of power by a DA. Those are much more common than people realize. As an example, in a recent case that I'm familiar with in Oregon, a man that I personally know was unjustly charged with 4 criminal charges that the DA knew were unjustified. He fought. He won. He now has, in addition to a crushing legal bill, a bill for the time he spent locked up in prison on trumped…

> a bill for the time he spent locked up in prison on trumped up charges?

Am I reading this right? Are you saying that they charge you for time you spend involuntarily in prison?

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by btilly »

softbuilder wrote: post #30
btilly wrote: post #28

This sounds to me like nothing more than an abuse of power by a DA. Those are much more common than people realize. As an example, in a recent case that I'm familiar with in Oregon, a man that I personally know was unjustly charged with 4 criminal charges that the DA knew were unjustified. He fought. He won. He now has, in addition to a crushing legal bill, a bill for the time he spent locked up in prison on trumped…

Haven't heard about this story. Link?

No link. As far as I know, no reporter has ever cared about the story and so it is reported nowhere.

I know about it because the guy was married to my half-sibling's half-sibling. Unsurprisingly, they are now getting divorced. My family is involved in various ways, including a custody battle.

The whole thing is a clusterfuck that I want to keep my distance from, but can't help hearing about. I'll just say that if you run into a statistic like, "70% of natives on that reservation are alcoholics" - well there are REASONS why they are driven to drink. :-(

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by btilly »

gizmo686 wrote: post #35
btilly wrote: post #28

This sounds to me like nothing more than an abuse of power by a DA. Those are much more common than people realize. As an example, in a recent case that I'm familiar with in Oregon, a man that I personally know was unjustly charged with 4 criminal charges that the DA knew were unjustified. He fought. He won. He now has, in addition to a crushing legal bill, a bill for the time he spent locked up in prison on trumped…

> a bill for the time he spent locked up in prison on trumped up charges? Am I reading this right? Are you saying that they charge you for time you spend involuntarily in prison?

Yes.

That surprised me as well.

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by kstenerud »

mtgx wrote: post #3

You should check this out if you have a Facebook account. It shows you the crimes you're guilty of, all over the world, just for posting stuff on Facebook: http://www.trialbytimeline.org.nz

I think it's broken. It's been repeatedly spinning through my contacts for 30 minutes so far, switching between 0 and 10 in line as it goes.

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by fixxer »

Perceval wrote: post #26
mindcrime wrote: post #16

Cam's facebook and pointing to "disturbing" posts like "Fuck politics. Fuck Obama. Fuck the government!" What's disturbing about any of that?

Man, if everyone who had posted "Fuck politics. Fuck Bush. Fuck the government!" were prosecuted as terrorists, there would be no one left on the internet.

Well said. Reserve free speech for Texas.

Re: Teenager facing terrorism charges for something he posted on Facebook

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Post by fixxer »

This kid is 100% idiot and deserves some major ridicule, but he isn't a threat and doesn't appear to have done anything actually illegal. This DA is wasting time and money, which offends me far more.

I wish terrorists actually did post their intent on Facebook.

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