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Re: Soylent Campaign

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No need, here's a perfectly good breakdown from 2 months ago: http://www.businessinsider.com/rob-rhinehart-food-substitute...

That's not perfectly good, that's embarassingly and cringingly bad, and you should be ashamed of yourself for spamming it all throughout this page as if it were anything like a real rebuttal to Rhinehart. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5615708

Agreed. That article is so terrible it actually lends credence to the Soylent folks.

Re: Soylent Campaign

#432
post #222

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As much as i love cooking, there are times where i would love something that is quick and healthy. not to say soylent is that, just that it would be nice.

Not sure whats wrong with blending some protein powder (ON is tasty), a full avocado, spinach if your feeling frisky, whole-milk if your feeling more frisky (higher fats / a bit more protein) for a near-meal replacement (near, nothing compares to whole foods). ~400 cals or so. Or taking it further with blending/vitamixing (so you keep the fiber) veggies. I thought this was the most hilarious article I've read. And it…

> Not sure whats wrong with blending some protein powder (ON is tasty)

Quoting from the list of ingredients for ON[1], this is wrong: Natural and Artificial Flavors, Acesulfame Potassium.

[1] http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/100-Whey-Gold-Stand...

Re: Soylent Campaign

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post #196
post #168

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Hu? Not telling you what's in it ? Isn't the recipe open sourced and extensively discussed on their website ? Like here for example : http://robrhinehart.com/?p=424 ?

Weirdly, that page tells you that the creator himself thinks Soylent may be dangerous for people other than him. > I am reticent to provide exact brand names and instructions because I am not fully convinced of the diet's safety for a physiology different than mine. What if I missed something that's essential for someone of a different race or age group? Why does he now think it's acceptable to market this to everyon…

I'm not sure, but I've got about 154,567 guesses.

Re: Soylent Campaign

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post #331

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Believe it or not, consuming the toxins contained in whole foods makes us more robust. This is similar to the phenomenon where children who grow up desperately poor and literally living in dirt have a markedly lower rate of autoimmune diseases than first world kids.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis

Wow! You telling me that working as a jumper at a Nuclear Plant might have been good for me? The mind boggles.

Re: Soylent Campaign

#435
post #369

Wow there is a lot of hate in this thread... A lot of the arguments here seem to boil down to "Much smarter people are working on this and they haven't solved it, who the hell does this KID think he is?!?" That's pretty depressing for a website that, at least originally, was to help startups talk to one another. Shame on you, hacker news. You're smarter than this. By this logic, never ever trust your data to anybody…

Even if they're already approved for human consumption, the end production process needs to occur in a cGMP approved facility to cover themselves legally.

This isn't a cheap or quick process.

Re: Soylent Campaign

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post #197

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That's a very good point and very observant. I too am highly skeptical of ALL of these claims. My main gripe with Soylent (ever since I first saw it here on HN a month ago) is that they are making cooking seem like a horrible chore that nobody wants to do. Shopping is convenient because I go whenever I have time and only buy exactly what I need. At the same time, I also ensure I only buy the best ingredients I can at…

My main gripe with Soylent (ever since I first saw it here on HN a month ago) is that they are making cooking seem like a horrible chore that nobody wants to do. To me, the more worrisome thing is that they are making eating seem like a horrible chore that nobody wants to do.

This is my concern, as well. I love food. My family loves food. Most people, even in developing countries, would prefer actual food to a nutrition shake. Culture, family, community, and love are all bound up in our relationships to eating. Bachelor chow is all well and good, but it won't save the world.

That said, Plumpy'nut and other RUTFs have done amazing things for the neediest people on the planet, so I'm not as willing as other HNers to throw the project entirely under the bus. I am interested in how this product compares to what exists.

Re: Soylent Campaign

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post #197

I really enjoy this campaign because it gave me an excuse to compare it with snake oil labels. ( https://www.google.com/search?q=snake+oil+label&tbm=isch... ) The characteristic of this kind of marketing that I enjoy the most is the presence of what I call 'linguistic asymptotes.' These are words that imply a product has unparalleled or infinite properties. On the soylent page we have "ubiquitous", "perfectly", "opti…

That's a very good point and very observant. I too am highly skeptical of ALL of these claims. My main gripe with Soylent (ever since I first saw it here on HN a month ago) is that they are making cooking seem like a horrible chore that nobody wants to do. Shopping is convenient because I go whenever I have time and only buy exactly what I need. At the same time, I also ensure I only buy the best ingredients I can at…

I've been using my own version of Soylent (Soylent Orange see elsewhere in this thread) for 8 months now and I find it enhances cooking. When I only have to worry about one meal each day i can actually enjoy the process. With 3 not so much.

Re: Soylent Campaign

#438
post #369

Wow there is a lot of hate in this thread... A lot of the arguments here seem to boil down to "Much smarter people are working on this and they haven't solved it, who the hell does this KID think he is?!?" That's pretty depressing for a website that, at least originally, was to help startups talk to one another. Shame on you, hacker news. You're smarter than this. By this logic, never ever trust your data to anybody…

Even if they're already approved for human consumption, the end production process needs to occur in a cGMP approved facility to cover themselves legally. This isn't a cheap or quick process.

What you're talking about is commonly referred to as a "certified kitchen".

Not only is this process simple, but there are community available certified kitchens in most major cities that people like the aforementioned hippies use to make their granola bars.

Here is the first link for "certified kitchen Phoenix": https://www.chefssharedkitchen.com/default.aspx

Re: Soylent Campaign

#439
I've started a wiki page on Slant.co for people to outline the main arguments why Soylent may or may not be healthy since these threads can be very hard to follow all the great discussion going back and forth!

Please help me flesh it out so it can help people come to their own conclusion about Soylent's safety: http://www.slant.co/topics/695/~is-it-safe-to-replace-my-die...

Re: Soylent Campaign

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The most depressing thing about this whole thing is the alarmingly high number of commenters here who seem to not have the most basic grasp of how science works, and what types of evidence are necessary before something can be deemed safe.

Here is a hint, folks: it is called a random controlled trial. Until these Soylent guys conduct a few of those and show that their product is not only just better, but also safe for consumption, it needs to be dismissed and ignored.

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