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I love the curated links, but that's about it. Trying to engage in conversation is a crap shoot. You might learn something, but you might encounter someone just dying to turn district attorney on you and just wanting to rip into you. I'll pass.
And God forbid you have a negative view on vi/vim.
Let the downvoting begin.
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Dave's writing was all about him. So what? I generally respect and understand what you're saying, but this is a unique case. I don't see anything unique about this, that justifies personal attacks on anybody (Dave Winer or otherwise). I mean, I get that you see Dave's post as constituting an attack of sorts on Marissa, and that you think playing the vengeance card here is supported. But not everybody saw what he wrot…
I just think his writing is self-aggrandizing to the detriment of his argument. What's the point of comments on his stories if we can't talk about that?
Your mileage varies, obviously.
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And of course, it wouldn't censor dissent, it would just prevent new people from dissenting. Unless you follow it up with a constant shifting of the line in the sand between the "acceptable community" and "unacceptable community", perhaps by deleting the accounts of anyone as old as, or newer than, anyone within the circle who voices an unpopular enough opinion. Or have every thread be invite only, or set to only all…
You're all missing the point, if you look a little further down I clarify what I mean by the internet in Ender's Game. But maybe we could have two levels one where all the spam and hate can happen and no one will care... and the other where only people who can show they have a track record of adding meaningfully to the discussion are allowed to post, while everyone can view. Or some other thing... but don't you guys…
Really, given the tenor of some of the online communities i've been involved in, what passes for unacceptable behavior here is still practically civil. I understand the desire to 'engineer' the problem away but I don't think that's really possible, apart from the community itself being more tolerant and the moderators being more strict but fair. It is a public forum, with a practically nonexistent bar for entry. And i've seen older, established posters act with vicious condescension and newer posters being polite and considerate. You have to accept a certain ground level of chaos, bigotry, backbiting, trolling and noise as part of the system.
As a top-voted dissenting opinion on Dave's piece yesterday, I find myself compelled to chime in. > I honestly don't care what the HN trolls, and the people who upvote them, supposedly "think" about me. If that's true, why 750 words on the subject? The issue I take with Dave Winer is that he seems to feel as though his accomplishments or contributions somehow elevate his words beyond criticism. I will say again what…
So instead I'll say it here: what sucked about your comment was not that you dared criticize the Great Dave Winer. What sucked is that you did so in a mean-spirited, dismissive tone. You can get the same point across without being a dick, and as much as it may seem like pointless platitudery, saying things like, "I get where you're coming from, but..." and, "it's hard to tell solely from what's written, but my impression is..." really do let you deliver the message in a way that's less likely to offend, and more likely to be heeded.
Parsimony in code is good. Parsimony in interpersonal communication can come across as brusque, dickish, and dismissive. It's worth thinking about how what you write is perceived, in addition to saying what you want to say.
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Hard drives are a physical medium. http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fixed_in_a_tangible_medium_of...
But is memcached on RAM?
I'm not sure what he's proposing. If he means let site owners specify that people not be able to submit their sites to HN, I've actually daydreamed occasionally about doing that myself for paulgraham.com. But it might not work in practice, because determined submitters would just mirror the text elsewhere and submit that. He's right though that Twitter has a big advantage in that it's easy to ignore jerks. It might b…
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You're new here, so you may think people are downvoting you for what you're saying. They're really downvoting you for how you say it. We try to put a premium on being civil.
You're right (and it's one of the reasons I enjoy reading HN) but it's kind of ironic in this context, isn't it? We're all so good at not telling people to STFU and what-not, but we still have enumerable troubles with entire discussions not being derailed into hate-fests, albeit with some uncharacteristically (for an internet discussion) polite language. Something to think about.
This is curious, maybe a little too reactionary[1], but I think we could use the introspection. On the one hand, being argued about is a problem a lot of people would like to have. I spent two years making a large canvas diagramming library and I would have loved for it to have frontpage'd on HN, even if everyone just told me it was terrible. On the other hand, I do think the meanness of programming communities is a…
I agree that people should be talking more about this. As an older student who hangs out on IRC a lot, I see two phenomena: - People get initiated into programmer culture pretty young, before they learn to stop being pretentious. They really like how meritocratic programmer culture is, but they get carried away with it the same way that people who say "gays should go to hell" or "the weak have no place in society" ge…
I joined #C to ask for some help, but people were trying to get me to discover the solution on my own, which is well and fine if you want to learn, but at that point I just wanted the trivial fix (it was something about an incorrect type, it was a 1-line fix and anyone with C experience could see it).
I asked them if they could just tell me how to fix it, because it was late and it wasn't really a good time for me to learn C, but they said something about them not being my personal tutors or something, and then just refused to help and treated me like an idiot for not knowing C.
In the end I just left the channel with very high blood pressure and asked a friend on IM who told me the correct line, and that was it.
#C: not even once.
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I'd love to hear the true story behind why this guy has such a thing for me. As far as I know we've never met. Something is bothering him. It sure as hell isn't this blog post. Not enough there to make such a big deal about.
The true story isn't anything more than I think your writing would be a whole lot more effective if you weren't so impressed by yourself. Your blog reads like an ongoing hagiography of the sort the North Koreans would write. While that vanity gets tiring, it's not a crime. What's maddening is your lack of intellectually honest engagement of critique on that or any other matter. And your position, implied by your comm…
You accuse him of refusing to engage with criticism, which is quite a serious claim in a community that prides itself on rational discourse. Other commenters have also alluded to this, though I've not seen evidence for it. There's a fine line between critical responses that you should engage with and personal attacks that can be ignored. Your comment here doesn't read like constructive criticism to me.