A side point: Does it make signifiant difference from a legal point of view to have the mail provider in Australia ?
For example, would it free from the 13 years old limitation on account ownership?
Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
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Re: Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
#112Zoho provides good email, calendar, and many of additional apps for business such as CRM, invoices, etc. My teammates chose Zoho for a company-wide 500-person setup with email, calendar, wiki, project, etc. and are very pleased with it.
I used Zoho for a while in the place of Google Apps, and migrated back to Google Apps after about 9 months as I absolutely hated Zoho Mail. Webmail interface was awful, and it didn't play nicely with the POP client on Android.
Re: Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
#113I've been considering zohomail for gmail alternative.
Does anyone have experience with both that and fastmail and can compare?
From a cursory exploration, you can get quite a bit (including quite a bit of storage) from zohomail at the free tier, compared to what you get from the $5/year (might as well be free) tier at fastmail. But fastmail may have lots of cool features if you do want to pay?
(Definitely interested in getting away from gmail. I've always had my own domain name for email, but it's currently hosted at gmail, using the no-longer-existing free google apps tier).
Re: Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
#114Fix your certificates! Your cert is signed for webfaction but you're hosted at kkinder. Host: kkinder.com Common name: .webfaction.com Alternative subject names: regex([^.] \.webfaction\.com), regex(webfaction\.com)
OP (as in the site) here. It's not my certificate, it's your browser, which I assume is Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP? You're using a browser that does not support TLS, a cutting edge new technology that's over 10 years old. Get Firefox or Chromium.
I assume you mean SNI, not TLS?
Re: Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
#115I've been using GMail since its inception, so I figured I'd try the authors first suggestion, FastMail to see how the competition was fairing. The article mentions that FastMail operates both "free and paid tiers of service", so I figured I'd make a free account and poke around. But I've clicked and searched for five minutes now and found nothing except paid plans with a free trial. Am I missing something? Also, the…
I've been using Fastmail for about 2 months now. I much prefer it overall, but it is incorrect to say it has all the features of Gmail. It has just about enough of the right features that I want though, so no real issues there. The interface is superior in my opinion, of course the lack of adverts is wonderful, about the only thing which really gets me scratching my head is the way they handle multiple credentials, it is mind-boggling how many options there are yet none of them seem to allow a third party client to send/receive email but not have access to the account settings, a very strange ommission or just very badly documented. So no, it is not perfect, but it is a fantastic Gmail replacement.
Re: Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
As the OP, let me respond. I'm not suggesting that Google is evil. What I am saying is, these products don't work for me and the reason they don't work is that they aren't interoperable with my own desktop software, or the rest of the Internet. I actually do use desktop calendaring software which will stop working this summer. I communicate with people via XMPP who are not on Talk. I used to use Listen and Reader. I'…
> I actually do use desktop calendaring software which > will stop working this summer. Which software is that? If it's currently working with Gmail's CalDAV support, then it ought to continue working into the future. Google is not dropping support for CalDAV. > I communicate with people via XMPP who are not on Talk. This also ought to continue working. Talk is still based on XMPP, and server federation is still work…
Wait, what is this about? Is Google changing _something_ about CAlDAV? Now I'm worried, even though you are assuring us I shouldn't be, heh. What's changing exactly?
Re: Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
#117I've been working on removing myself from the Google silo for the past few months. It's tough, and the alternatives just aren't as good or convenient as what Google offers, but I think it's an important thing to do at least on principle. I found Owncloud to be difficult to install and very buggy. For self-hosted CalDAV/CardDAV, I chose Baikal ( http://http://baikal-server.com/ ) instead of Radicale. It seemed easier…
Most of the work for the "hacker alternative" is already done, in the form of [iRedmail].
[iRedMail]: http://www.iredmail.org/
Re: Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article is incorrect: there is no free tier but there is a 2 month free trial. https://www.fastmail.fm/action/signup/?type=personal&acc... In terms of additional features: - Support for Sieve scripts - LOVE this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_(mail_filtering_language) - Way faster loading time, snapper interface - Lots more customizability (look at the display settings for an individual folder: https://files.…
Undo send? In order to do that, we would have to hold all outbound emails until a delay threshold was reached... I'm not sure if that's a good idea.
It's about 10 seconds, and it's saved me when I realize I forgot to attach stuff more than once.
Re: Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
#119Sigh. It's the same anti-Google post on HN again.
Re: Leaving Google’s silo: Alternatives to Gmail, Talk, Calendar, and more
#120"Unfortunately, there are no good alternatives to some Google properties. Maps...." For maps, depending on your uses, bing mapquest's map and geocoding APIs can be replacements, and sometimes cheaper.
There's also here.com, based on Nokia/Navteq's map data. It's quite nice, and I've been enjoying the Nokia maps on my Lumia phone a lot.