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Re: Soylent Campaign

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It's just _food_, it's not like any other food product in modern history was ever extensively tested before it was put in the market as a part of our daily diet.

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Re: Soylent Campaign

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I really enjoy this campaign because it gave me an excuse to compare it with snake oil labels. ( https://www.google.com/search?q=snake+oil+label&tbm=isch... ) The characteristic of this kind of marketing that I enjoy the most is the presence of what I call 'linguistic asymptotes.' These are words that imply a product has unparalleled or infinite properties. On the soylent page we have "ubiquitous", "perfectly", "opti…

So you coined a new word for hyperbole? Cromulent!

Re: Soylent Campaign

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Rob has been conducting trials with people for a few months now, and reports there's "appropriate evidence that Soylent is safe, effective, healthy, and delicious." He's been pretty careful about bringing this to market, too; for a long time he hasn't suggested anyone try this and hasn't shared the recipe publicly because he doesn't want anyone without a chemistry/biology background to ingest a bunch of chemicals and…

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Re: Soylent Campaign

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It's just _food_, it's not like any other food product in modern history was ever extensively tested before it was put in the market as a part of our daily diet.

Soylent was not created to be a part of our daily diet; it was created to replace our daily diet.

Re: Soylent Campaign

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And Benjamin Franklin was a printer, but he still invented the lighting rod and bi-focals.

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More to the point, bifocals and lightning rods are not intended for internal consumption.

Nor are either of them biochemistry, a subject considerably more complicated than optics or basic electro-magnetism.

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> trust the Soylent folks more than I trust myself purchasing frozen meals in a grocery store. That's a strawman. You're ignoring the fact that those frozen meals are made by companies who have more experience in the food industry than these 4 clowns combined a million times over. I am MUCH more afraid of the Soylent guys' sheer ignorance than I am of any profit-motivated negligence on the part of large frozen meal c…

Ad Hominem attacks don't strengthen your argument. From what I can tell, the Soylent team appears to be pursuing their goals in an admirably scientific fashion. Although there's quite a bit of work to do, I recall an article from a couple of days ago on HN that was talking about the wonderful work the big guys are doing. This quote from General Mills is priceless: >In a public comment posted on the FTC website, our f…

> This quote from General Mills is priceless

There is a world of difference between "unsafe" and "unhealthy." I am not claiming that frozen dinners are healthy. Far from it - I avoid them like the plague. However, they are not going to land you in the hospital in the short term.

> think that there may be some merit to the Soylent team and their claims

The fundamental issue is that statements like "there may be some merit" might be sufficient for trying an iPhone app. It is NOT sufficient for trying a radically new diet like this one.

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I'm sitting this one out for a year.

I expected Rob to run longer and more detailed trails than it appears he has. As in a few hundred people eating nothing but Soylent for a year.

There will be problems with the initial manufacture, and he highlights them in the risks section. But I notice the lack of anyone from say a pharma QC background who would be able to control the risk of overdosing on an ingredient by properly testing the batches during production. Maybe the production facility have the skills to do that?

Within a year, whatever can go wrong probably will have. Either they will be in a lot of trouble, or it will be pretty safe to buy (and a huge achievement). I guess you could say the same for coinbase.

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The OP was behaving badly, but was desperately well motivated. He provided a useful link where a food scientist rubbishes Soylent - http://www.businessinsider.com/rob-rhinehart-food-substitute...

Re: Soylent Campaign

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The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. What makes you think this is a bad idea other than "waaahh they are not food scientists!"?

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Change your diet to anything different for that amount of time and your body will feel better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me

I thought we were lovers of Science on this site? I thought we believed in testing claims through evidence, not some slick marketing video.

The founder has blogged in detail about the evolution of the recipe and effects on his body, http://robrhinehart.com/ (site currently appears to be down).

Re: Soylent Campaign

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The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. What makes you think this is a bad idea other than "waaahh they are not food scientists!"?

If you think that a sample of 1 is enough to validate the safety of this substance, then you need to just stop commenting on this article. You have absolutely no idea how science works.

It is not a "substance". This is basically a multivitamin mixed in with some fluor, some whey protein and some olive oil. You only need common sense to validate the safety.
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