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Cancer and Startups

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Re: Cancer and Startups

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> my mother's partner was diagnosed What business is this mother in? An accountancy? Perhaps you meant to say spouse?

My boyfriend is my partner, but not my husband, though we've been around for longer than many marriages. For some reason, I don't think Chris would have had a problem saying wife were it so.

I respect the fight, but we don't all fit into the marriage binary either.

(And hey, maybe someday the two of us will be married too, heh.)

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As someone who is doing a startup to try to develop cures for cancer, your project may not necessarily directly help mine, but somewhere along the line, there is someone who wrote an IDE that enabled tools that enabled what I'm about to do. I remember when I was younger, my dad stumped $500 for borland turbo pascal, and $1500 for MS visual C++, later. Now that there's competition for these things, it's to where I can afford one for development on a meager budget and, eventually for my children, too. Programming, in many ways directly influences the way that I think about things, and I'm incredibly glad to have learned how to do it, even if I haven't made anything of consequence (made an android app in the early days that netted me $300).

The adversity is an asset thing I completely understand. Although I was trained as a biologist/chemist, I always shied away from ideas like "curing cancer/AIDS" but when my "adoptive grandmother" passed from cancer, and a cancer drug development project fell into my lap, I took it as a sign and now my resolve is steeled. I also never imagined I would be running a company (or a nonprofit one, at that)... Yet, here I am.

We're rooting for you.

Re: Cancer and Startups

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post #8

> Isn't it my moral duty to do that? No, there is no absolute "moral duty" to anything or anyone. There is a thing called "guilt", that some people try to induce (moral manipulation), when you don't do the things they want you to do. You only duty is to do things that you think are right. > Could I have saved Kristie, or if not her, others like her? Saving her - quite unlikely, unless you manage to find a cure for th…

Last year I was with a family member in her final months... mostly spent in a hospital. Working was a sort of refuge that allowed me to focus on something else. When I returned I was a much better support. You will go crazy if you do nothing but sit at the hospital listening to beeping machines and watching basic cable. You'll want to sit there with her all the time but you need to take care of yourself as well.

Re: Cancer and Startups

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post #19

Always remember that no amount of specialist skill by itself gets things done. Healthcare, and everything else, depends on the vast capital structure of our global economy. If you sent a great doctor back in time to the 15th century, she could do somewhat better than the locals (hand-washing helps a lot). But she would come nowhere near her capabilities when backed by a modern economy. If you can make one little piec…

This is one of the most insightful things I've read about the interconnectedness of different professions and the overall economy in recent memory. I'm currently at a crossroads of decision, wondering much as the author about the most meaningful use of my life. This helped me, Thank You.

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post #19

Always remember that no amount of specialist skill by itself gets things done. Healthcare, and everything else, depends on the vast capital structure of our global economy. If you sent a great doctor back in time to the 15th century, she could do somewhat better than the locals (hand-washing helps a lot). But she would come nowhere near her capabilities when backed by a modern economy. If you can make one little piec…

> If you can make one little piece of the economy 50% more efficient, you're freeing up capital for the next highest use

Nice! Spoken like an economist (I recently read Economics in One Lesson).

Re: Cancer and Startups

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This post has some special meaning to me. I work as a developer at a cancer hospital. The work I do directly helps clinical trials. I handle everything from trial conception to actual patient accruals and the resulting deluge of data.

Every little bit of tech I get to use which has a net positive affect on my efficiency reduces the time of my deliverables/milestones. My team and I develop the tools/software/data which the doctors/nurses/practitioners rely on to provide care, solve interesting medical puzzles, etc. It is a race against the clock. I get the privilege of writing code that has the potential to help cure cancer.

I switched from TextMate to Sublime Text 2 recently. I've been monitoring Light Table and ST3 as of late. Keep up the good work.

Re: Cancer and Startups

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I apologize if my post implies I believe we're out curing cancer - we're not and that was not my intent. If you point out to me where I've somehow stated that, I'll be happy to fix it. That being said, I'm not sure I agree with your argument. Both indirect and direct means are ultimately necessary for any serious change or innovation. By your logic, a microscope is just an item that lets you see things up close. Now…

Both direct and indirect tools are absolutely equally necessary, and my apologies if that sentiment did not come through -- I would never debate the usefulness or effectiveness of these tools, but instead their fitness for achieving a specific goal. The parallel to curing cancer was mainly drawn from this paragraph: I could've become a doctor. All signs pointed to me likely being a very good one. In doing so, I would…

I get your point, I really do. It's a decent argument, but if that's his gasoline, let him use it. Motivation is a hard thing to come by and his story just illustrates how hard it can be to focus and build something when dealing with emotional issues.

I don't think it hurts anyone when he says he's helping solve cancer, he's not stealing anyone's thunder. There's plenty of evidence of tool/library developers not getting any credit in the end product. If someone directly finds a cure using Light Table as their IDE, I'm pretty damn sure not a lot of people are going to seek out Chris and congratulate him on curing cancer. But he would've helped and that's the important thing. So let him have his motivation and keep building things.

Re: Cancer and Startups

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Beautifully written.

The question of whether my contribution to the world and how meaningful it should be has been in my head for a long, long time. It's not an easy answer. Working on an IDE certainly isn't performing life-saving surgery on someone who's bleeding out, but it does serve its purpose in the world.

I used to criticize people working on social apps until I started training in the hospital here and noticed kids spending hours in their stretchers browsing Instagram and the like. Social apps likely help a huge number of patients get through their hospital stays. And while they're not contributing directly to a person's physiological stability, I don't think they are that less meaningful than the services being provided by the hospital. There's a patient here who listens to his iPod all day, and another who is constantly on Facebook, and another who is always watching movies on his iPad, and I'd bet a cool million that all those products and services contribute to their mental, and eventually physical health.

If your product/service is providing value, making lives easier, and you're satisfied providing it, I would try to ignore the "meaning" question, because your mind will always default to you being the Nobel piece prize winner who discovered the cure for cancer, or the doctor who just single-handedly resurrected a patient (and all the glory and status that comes with that). The point is you will always undervalue the contribution you're currently making while overvaluing the contributions you could be making. I'm not saying you shouldn't pursue stuff like cancer research, but before you do, objectively evaluate the contribution you're making.

Know there is much more to a meaningful life than health, like friends, families, hobbies, entertainment, work, etc. Helping facilitate any of that makes you a positive-contributor in my book.

Re: Cancer and Startups

#29
Chris, thanks very much for sharing this story with us. It takes a lot of courage, and as someone who has been a caretaker (briefly) for a loved one before, I very much empathize by how difficult it is to run a company while doing laundry/cooking/feeding/bathing/entertaining another person--while at the same time trying to keep it together emotionally.

I hope that you and Kristie stay tenacious. All the best.

Re: Cancer and Startups

#30

This post has some special meaning to me. I work as a developer at a cancer hospital. The work I do directly helps clinical trials. I handle everything from trial conception to actual patient accruals and the resulting deluge of data. Every little bit of tech I get to use which has a net positive affect on my efficiency reduces the time of my deliverables/milestones. My team and I develop the tools/software/data whic…

i think your kind of testimony is really the best a developer could hope to read. We all know that in a somewhat indirect way, we are helping someone somewhere with our work, but it must feel really good to hear one say it out loud from time to time.

PS : I'm not even building an IDE, so that makes me even further away from helping anyone help someone.

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