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Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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Re: Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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A lot of people ask my why I never got a degree. As a .net web developer I don't wan't so spend 4 years part time (no money for fulltime) studying java, because that's what you mostly learn in our country. Edit: I maybe should add theres nothing wrong with java. It's just not my choice that's all. And in my country (switzerland) the education system looks little bit different. I started a education at age 16 as softw…

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Re: Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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Since then, he has worked for Percolate, Vimeo and other startups, and now, at age 25, he's earning more than six figures. Six figures is $100,000 - $999,999. More than six figures = $1,000,000+.

It's worded poorly, but it means he's making more than $100k.

Clearly, but that is not what "more than six figures means".

Re: Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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This is not necessarily a good thing for the web development field. This is how you end up with people with large gaps in their knowledge responsible for parts of your codebase. To be clear, it is entirely possible to be self-taught and learn everything you need to know. I'm self-taught, and I like to think I've filled in most of the gaps by now. I've also worked with a few self-taught people who make me feel like a…

I am not so sure. I am at one of the top technological universities in my country and it's definitely possible to get a master's degree in computer science or computer engineering with great grades without having ever touched either version control or knowing what SQL injections are. Heck, both introduction to web applications and databases are elective courses. Just like the article says, many academical institutions move too slowly to keep up. I think a passion to learn how things actually work and to do things "the right way" and at the same time GTD is what really takes you somewhere.

Re: Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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This is not necessarily a good thing for the web development field. This is how you end up with people with large gaps in their knowledge responsible for parts of your codebase. To be clear, it is entirely possible to be self-taught and learn everything you need to know. I'm self-taught, and I like to think I've filled in most of the gaps by now. I've also worked with a few self-taught people who make me feel like a…

I learned exactly none of those things in school.

Re: Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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A lot of people ask my why I never got a degree. As a .net web developer I don't wan't so spend 4 years part time (no money for fulltime) studying java, because that's what you mostly learn in our country. Edit: I maybe should add theres nothing wrong with java. It's just not my choice that's all. And in my country (switzerland) the education system looks little bit different. I started a education at age 16 as softw…

While I don't disagree with you that there is an opportunity cost of education, it is nearly always better to invest in yourself at an early age[1]. Also, I'm coming from a U.S. point of view, might be different in other countries.

Also, after my time at university I noticed that I didn't need to be a .NET or PHP developer. I was a well rounded computer scientist with the capacity to learn anything I set out to, which is the point of degree. I learned what I wanted in my free time, the technologies you use shouldn't define you.

[1] http://crossbridge1.blogspot.com/2011/09/does-education-pay-...

Re: Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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"Nobody really cares about your education in this field -- it's can you do it, or can you not?"

Is this unique to software development? Like, if I wanted to break into the fast paced world of industrial fastener sales would prospective employers be worried about my undergraduate degree? My experience on both sides of the interview table has been that after a few (2-3?) years of working in a field, your professional experience counts for much more than your academic credentials. I don't think it's unique to web development.

Re: Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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A lot of people ask my why I never got a degree. As a .net web developer I don't wan't so spend 4 years part time (no money for fulltime) studying java, because that's what you mostly learn in our country. Edit: I maybe should add theres nothing wrong with java. It's just not my choice that's all. And in my country (switzerland) the education system looks little bit different. I started a education at age 16 as softw…

Whats wrong with Java? I am focusing most of my time on it. Bad decision?

It's not a "bad" decision if you focus on Android development or you are working for a big company with Java infrastructure (that pay's my bills :). How ever, as they say: "don't keep all your eggs in just one basket". Learn other languages and frameworks like PHP/Yii, Python/Django or Ruby/Ruby On Rails. And code for different platforms (iOS, Windows Phone) if you have the time ;)

Re: Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get a CS degree and never, ever encounter SQL injection, unit testing, or serious version control. Hell, you can get an MS without worrying about those things.

I'll agree with you about SQL injection, but I don't see how you could miss unit testing in any decent CS program. You may be able to avoid seeing version control if you purposely stick to the hardcore math and theory classes without ever taking a software engineering or project-based course.

Many CS programs are non-decent.

Re: Make $30 an hour, no bachelor's degree required

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worded poorly, but it means he's making more than $100k.

Clearly, but that is not what "more than six figures means".

They mean "more than the lowest amount that has six figures" (which is 100,000), but they say "more than six figures", which implies seven or more figures, e.g. 1,000,000 or more. Yay for context ;)
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