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Re: Poll: Which is your primary text editor?

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If only working with multiple files was easier... what are you guys using these days ? [edit] Also, one thing that shows how Vim is oriented towards opening and closing it all time is that preventing acidental quitting is quite hard to achieve (only with hacks..)

What do you call "accidental quitting"?

If you have two windows, :q closes the current window, and most people do that all the time, for removing buffers from the view. But if you only have one window and run that, with the intention of dumping the buffer or simply by mistake, your Vim is closed...

Re: Poll: Which is your primary text editor?

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With Acme, any piece of text can be executed as a command with a (IIRC) middle mouse button click. So in one pane on Acme, you can have the following written down: ls ~/dev uptime and middle clicking uptime or highlighting and then middle clicking ls ~/dev would literally run those commands and return the output in a new Acme pane (you can even go a step further and have commands inside comments in your source code -…

Oh, I didn't think of middle clicking as "CLI" related in any way... I'm a relative newbie with respect to Acme, but I have recorded some videos in my blog (tagged Acme) about cool stuff you can do with it, and that I find beautiful in its own way. I love emacs (and in fact also vim, I use evil in emacs) but I find some of the ideas behind acme just too cool to overlook. You can drive acme completely, making it a gui…

> Now I understand your comment. Just a side remark, ~ usually doesn't work correctly in Plan9 from User Space and you have to input all the path... I'm sure it can be worked around, but I haven't got time to figure it out.

Sorry you're right. I was having a moment of absentmindedness there. The issue is Plan 9 doesn't use tilde as a shortcut for home[1] so I don't think there's anything you can do (short of editing the source code and aliasing it manually)

[1] http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/unix_to_plan_9_command...

> I'm still the only emacs user among ~30 hardcore unix users that have a preference for vi and vim (yes, both, I didn't forget the "m".) I can understand that they like vim (or I could if they knew more vim than they do, but they mostly don't and miss all the cool stuff vim has to offer, which is lots) but I just can't get why they don't even try emacs to see what other intelligent beings see in it. I have done it with vim, acme and I even try to use sam and ed occasionally to get used to different paradigms in editing. Probably I'm just nuts :)

People are busy and if you're already efficient in one editor then there's often little incentive to try another. I did give Acme a try though - used it pretty heavily for about a week then came to the conclusion that it was getting in the way more than it was speeding things up (eg it's become habit to use middle click to paste text). Plus most of my work is done inside SSH sessions, so I wasn't really making much use of the Acme's innovative features.

It's a bit of a pity because I do like the concept behind Acme and if it was customisable than I could probably tweak it to fit in better with my work flow. Maybe one day I'll give it another try, but for now it was more jarring than performance enhancing :(

Re: Poll: Which is your primary text editor?

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Oh, I didn't think of middle clicking as "CLI" related in any way... I'm a relative newbie with respect to Acme, but I have recorded some videos in my blog (tagged Acme) about cool stuff you can do with it, and that I find beautiful in its own way. I love emacs (and in fact also vim, I use evil in emacs) but I find some of the ideas behind acme just too cool to overlook. You can drive acme completely, making it a gui…

> Now I understand your comment. Just a side remark, ~ usually doesn't work correctly in Plan9 from User Space and you have to input all the path... I'm sure it can be worked around, but I haven't got time to figure it out. Sorry you're right. I was having a moment of absentmindedness there. The issue is Plan 9 doesn't use tilde as a shortcut for home[1] so I don't think there's anything you can do (short of editing…

I edited the source of p9ports to add ctrl-click to work as left-click (so I could chord while on my macbook without mouse.) It's a relatively plain codebase (I could find my way, so it should be easy... I'm very far from being able to navigate a lot of C code easily unless I have written it myself) but the tilde tweak would be just too much :(

I feel your acme-pain. In some sense it is wonderful, but in many others is just a pain. I still use it (just to get the feeling) for occasional small coding and for plain ol' writing: I just added wwb (the writer's workbench, a set of command line tools to analyse text) to my usual tag line and use it to test my writing for the blog and some lengthy emails and the link. It's handy for that (not that I couldn't do it in emacs)

Re: Poll: Which is your primary text editor?

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Yeah, I see people get lost going VIM -> NVI all the time. Kinda wish NVI had some of the vim macro/etc functionality in it.

vi != nvi != Vim Try using heirloom vi or Solaris vi sometime. Even nvi adds a lot of convenience.

No doubt, I have definately gone there, its a lil more of a PITA :)

Re: Poll: Which is your primary text editor?

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woo textpad! I haven't used it for years, but I did buy it at one point. I mostly used it for editing ActionScript 2, because the Flash CS4 editor just failed to do anything if you weren't using the latest and greatest language (you couldn't even configure spaces instead of tabs in the autocomplete ffs!) I was pretty hot on my textpad shortcuts and hacks. :)

Nower days I mostly work in Eclipse inside a Linux VM (convoluted, but I've found Eclipse in OS X to be severely deficient for python - and I can work on files on my host filesystem via a shared folder.)

When I need to edit in Mac OS I use Textmate 2, but I've never actually used any of the magic of Textmate beyond the syntax highlighting (and the latex compile-to-PDF key shortcut.)

Re: Poll: Which is your primary text editor?

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jEdit. I'm surprised nobody seems to be using it considering how powerful it is. I have tried many editors over the years and SublimeText is the first one that comes close to it; but jEdit still has much better search functionality, especially in 'hypersearch' mode.

Totally love jEdit, especially the search functionality. I've been using it for more than 7 years now, though development of jEdit and plugins have slowed in recent years. I've tried using Sublime and Notepad++ but both of them don't feel right.

Re: Poll: Which is your primary text editor?

#159
I don't have just one. Under Windows, I use a fork of Florian Ballmer's Notepad2 to replace Notepad. It's one of a number of editors based on Neil Hodgson's Scintilla edit control. It's small, starts fast, and can replace Windows Notepad through a registry hack. I also have Notepad++ and an assortment of other things installed.

Under Linux, I use Vim, emacs, and Geany, which is a lightweight IDE also based on Scintilla.

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