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Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by Uchikoma »

jonknee wrote: post #88
hnolable wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sentence is confusing at best. "If you don't have your own payment processing" What does that mean? I thought Google Checkout was my payment processor? Do they mean if you already have a payment processor other than Google? And if I _do_ have my own payment processing then I won't need to "transition to a different solution within six months". What does that mean, are they going to give me all the subscribers cr…

Braintree certainly does recurring billing and it's pretty common in these scenarios for the migration to happen between vendors. https://www.braintreepayments.com/tour/recurring-billing Braintree even helped start http://www.portabilitystandard.org/ to help standardize the migration process. That said, Google Checkout didn't do much in the way of recurring billing. The FAQ says it never made it out of beta. The vast…

"That said, Google Checkout didn't do much in the way of recurring billing."

Your comment helps all those who depend on Google Checkout subscriptions.

Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by Ironlink »

rgbrenner wrote: post #104
greggman wrote: post #95

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Um, did you read the post or just the headline. Aren't they just replacing Google Checkout with Google Wallet and isn't Google Wallet better than Google Checkout? It sounds like an upgrade to me. What am I missing? Is it just a messaging problem? If they had instead said "We're renaming Google Checkout to Google Wallet. We're introducing API v2. API v1 is deprecated and will be turned off in 6 months so upgrade your…

No, that is not accurate. Google Checkout processes payments for the merchant, and Google deposits the funds in the merchant's bank account. With the new system, Google has an API to give you the users information, but the merchant must have some way of processing the payment. So these two are not the same at all. I can tell you for my ecommerce site, I intend to drop Google Wallet altogether.. After the numerous Fro…

The "Wallet for digital goods API" continues to process transactions for you, so there is still processing in Wallet.

Besides that, as far as I can see a merchant would be more likely to get volume discounts on their transactions by funneling them into one payment processor. In this way the thinner Wallet API would seem like an improvement given that no merchant will have Wallet as their sole supplier of transaction processing (as you point out, most people order with CC). Fewer merchant accounts should also lead to less administration.

Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by darklajid »

myko wrote: post #14
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #11

Google is making the same mistakes Microsoft made. Trying to enter into every industry it can thinking it can use it's monopoly power to take over the world. Reality: Doing 20 things mediocrely is not as profitable of doing 2 things very very well. Result: 1) Constant experiments and dropped products (just like Microsoft). 2) Consumers no longer trust your services to stick around and no longer even invest in your pl…

Except they seem to be doing a great job jumping into new products and services? Google Wallet looks like a big improvement over their old system.

  Google Wallet looks like a big improvement over their old system.
I'm not trying to be a dick: How?

Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by [deleted] »

Ironlink wrote: post #132
rgbrenner wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that is not accurate. Google Checkout processes payments for the merchant, and Google deposits the funds in the merchant's bank account. With the new system, Google has an API to give you the users information, but the merchant must have some way of processing the payment. So these two are not the same at all. I can tell you for my ecommerce site, I intend to drop Google Wallet altogether.. After the numerous Fro…

The "Wallet for digital goods API" continues to process transactions for you, so there is still processing in Wallet. Besides that, as far as I can see a merchant would be more likely to get volume discounts on their transactions by funneling them into one payment processor. In this way the thinner Wallet API would seem like an improvement given that no merchant will have Wallet as their sole supplier of transaction…

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Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by Felix21 »

michaelschade wrote: post #39
thehodge wrote: post #2

It's a real shame that Google Checkout never really was what was promised, we've integrated it into our shop and we have more GoCardless payments than Google Checkout, it was a horrible system to deal with and I won't miss it when it goes (and if I ever get a response about the Stripe UK beta I'll be swapping that quick sharpish) We've had more declined transactions on Google Checkout than PayPal + GoCardless put tog…

(I work at Stripe.) Sorry you haven't gotten one yet! I just sent an invite your way.

Using Google checkout reduced my conversion rates but I still stuck to them cause they Paid on time and are very much less troublesome than paypal (especially for high volume merchants)

I'm definitely switching to stripe when it comes to the UK.

Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by rgbrenner »

Ironlink wrote: post #132
rgbrenner wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that is not accurate. Google Checkout processes payments for the merchant, and Google deposits the funds in the merchant's bank account. With the new system, Google has an API to give you the users information, but the merchant must have some way of processing the payment. So these two are not the same at all. I can tell you for my ecommerce site, I intend to drop Google Wallet altogether.. After the numerous Fro…

The "Wallet for digital goods API" continues to process transactions for you, so there is still processing in Wallet. Besides that, as far as I can see a merchant would be more likely to get volume discounts on their transactions by funneling them into one payment processor. In this way the thinner Wallet API would seem like an improvement given that no merchant will have Wallet as their sole supplier of transaction…

'The "Wallet for digital goods API" continues to process transactions for you, so there is still processing in Wallet.'

Checkout was used by merchants that sell physical goods. So the digital goods api is irrelevant.

Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by astrodust »

Blara wrote: post #127
astrodust wrote: post #116

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Samsung is focusing on a much smaller number of devices than they used to. Yes, they have more than Apple, but they also spend way more on advertising to make up for it. Instead of hundreds of phones, they have maybe a dozen now that they actively promote. Right now I can't leave the house without being bombarded by Samsung advertising, they're in some kind of feverish campaign over their new Note phone-tablet-thing.

And TV:s, fridges, computers... They manufacture more than just phones you know.

They don't dominate any market like they do Android phones. Are 90% of all fridges sold made by Samsung?

Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by _Lemon_ »

sounds wrote: post #123
_Lemon_ wrote: post #20

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Definitely a third party service. Then place the bumper sticker "No Bitcoins on our servers" somewhere :) I integrated MtGox and BitPay. Compared to Google Checkout (XML mania) and PayPal (documentation drama) they take about 5 seconds to implement (test is another thing entirely). I went with MtGox in the end since it was cheaper. I was then happy to offer a 3% discount to make up for the fees users got stung with p…

Just wanted to public thank you for detailing your experience as a merchant, setting up with MtGox and BitPay. Just curious, would you give BitPay a second look? Obligatory: I'm currently using MtGox and haven't really had the time to try BitPay, but the MtGox legal issues could be a reason to need a second option.

Yes I would, I'd probably jump back to them. I've just not had time to sit down this year!

Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by bulatb »

ceejayoz wrote: post #69
threeseed wrote: post #25

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Question. Do you actually use Dropbox ? Because for me it is one of the most overrated services I use. They haven't actually done anything new to the product since the beginning and the CPU load when syncing is still ridiculously high. IMHO The only reason Dropbox is successful because the alternatives e.g. SkyDrive, Google Drive are so much worse.

It's overrated, but all the other competing services are much worse? I'm confused.

Those aren't conflicting statements. If SkyDrive is 5 points worth of good, and Dropbox is widely rated 30 but "actually" a 10, then it's overrated but still better than the competition.

Re: Google Checkout will be retired, transition to Google Wallet

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Post by jacquesm »

Retiring a payment system is really the ultimate insult to those that invest in your platforms.

Imagine the bank that you use for your business transactions, especially recurring billing, to one day walk in and say: so sorry, you won't be able to process your old payments any more, but here is a new and shiny service that we think is better that you'll have to use from now on.

Never mind the integration overhead, possible loss of business, customer service issues and all the other headaches that can come from a thing like this.

I'm scared just to change bank accounts given how far those bits of information have propagated, losing a billing platform is a nightmare for businesses that rely on it.

Why would anyone switch to another service by the same provider that just chose to shut you down or that chose to saddle you up with a bunch of overhead on this years calendar?

Google partnering with braintree, shopify and freshbooks is the saving grace here.

In payment systems only two things matter: fraud control and continuity. Google excels at the first, drops the ball on the second.

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