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Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Re: Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Post by vidarh »

jebblue wrote: post #2

>> The take-away: Even as Ubuntu forges paths across hardware where traditional Linux (pace Android fans) has never before ventured, and Canonical commercializes the operating system to an extent not yet seen, it is keen to keep peace with Ubuntu users. I'm not sure what that means but if it means Ubuntu will soon not be recognizable then I don't know if that's a good thing. Unity removed functionality we had in Gnom…

If you want Gnome 2 Panels, run one of the Gnome 2 forks.

Personally I love Unity, and I finally have my beloved global menus back, like a freaking Amiga - something I have missed since about '97. I don't want to waste space on menus in every single application window.

Re: Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Post by buster »

With Canoncial doing more and more stuff on their own instead of really contributing to the Linux community, i've recently switched back to Debian and without regrets.

Thanks, but no thanks, for Unity, Upstart, Mir and whatever else you will come up in the future.

Re: Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Post by TheLastStand »

sciurus wrote: post #6

Please submit the original source. If a blog post reports on something they found on another site, submit the latter. http://design.canonical.com/2013/05/ubuntu-com-update/

The problem is that, that article won't get upvotes because it has a generic title 'Ubuntu.com update'.

The "original title" rule actually encourages blogspam to be posted because those tend to have descriptive titles for SEO purposes.

Re: Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Post by keithpeter »

JeremyMorgan wrote: post #10

Yeah they're going to continue to focus on trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole by creating a soccer mom friendly Linux and trying to piss off the rest of the Linux community. I say go for it, keep focusing on removing features that took years to perfect and reinventing the wheel for the sake of reinvention while chasing a group that doesn't care about their operating system. The sooner they make themsel…

Yes, I suspect that Canonical are attempting to "creat[e] a soccer mom friendly Linux" but I think the motivation may be to make some money so they can continue to develop the Ubuntu core.

I imagine that a workstation/high end laptop developer oriented version of GNU\Linux will be developed, and many would argue we already have such distributions available. Room for everyone. I personally want my Ubuntu phone for perhaps nostalgic nationalist reasons.

Re: Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Post by jckt »

jebblue wrote: post #2

>> The take-away: Even as Ubuntu forges paths across hardware where traditional Linux (pace Android fans) has never before ventured, and Canonical commercializes the operating system to an extent not yet seen, it is keen to keep peace with Ubuntu users. I'm not sure what that means but if it means Ubuntu will soon not be recognizable then I don't know if that's a good thing. Unity removed functionality we had in Gnom…

Do you dislike global menus just because it reminds you of a Mac? Is it actually a bad thing, and why? Have you ever tried actually using Unity for more than a few days? I understand that old habits stay strong, but sometimes breaking out of them and learning a new interface can be beneficial.

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Post by [deleted] »

JeremyMorgan wrote: post #10

Yeah they're going to continue to focus on trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole by creating a soccer mom friendly Linux and trying to piss off the rest of the Linux community. I say go for it, keep focusing on removing features that took years to perfect and reinventing the wheel for the sake of reinvention while chasing a group that doesn't care about their operating system. The sooner they make themsel…

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Re: Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Post by mayneack »

CJefferson wrote: post #5
jebblue wrote: post #2

>> The take-away: Even as Ubuntu forges paths across hardware where traditional Linux (pace Android fans) has never before ventured, and Canonical commercializes the operating system to an extent not yet seen, it is keen to keep peace with Ubuntu users. I'm not sure what that means but if it means Ubuntu will soon not be recognizable then I don't know if that's a good thing. Unity removed functionality we had in Gnom…

I realise you might hate unity, but I just wanted to make clear, some people (me) like it! I've tried plain gnome 3, latest kde, xmonad and xfce, and out of all of them have decided I like unity the best. The combination of: * Press win key + type 'th' gets thunderbird selected, win key + 'ch' gets chrome gives me quick access to all my apps. * I like a dock with fixed icons in fixed positions, so I can open an app,…

Linux Mint + cinnamon. Give it a shot.

Re: Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Post by h2s »

sciurus wrote: post #6

Please submit the original source. If a blog post reports on something they found on another site, submit the latter. http://design.canonical.com/2013/05/ubuntu-com-update/

I'm struggling to find anywhere in the cited Ubuntu blog post that talks about a vow to maintain focus. The summary itself never revisits that phrase to explain it further, and while the words "maintain" and "focus" do appear in the Ubuntu post, they are completely separate and there is no theme of vowing anything or staying focused on any particular thing. If anything, it's the opposite.

    Phase one of the restructure consisted of updating
    Ubuntu.com to reflect the expanded scope of the
    project.
Weird!

Re: Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Post by keithpeter »

CJefferson wrote: post #5
jebblue wrote: post #2

>> The take-away: Even as Ubuntu forges paths across hardware where traditional Linux (pace Android fans) has never before ventured, and Canonical commercializes the operating system to an extent not yet seen, it is keen to keep peace with Ubuntu users. I'm not sure what that means but if it means Ubuntu will soon not be recognizable then I don't know if that's a good thing. Unity removed functionality we had in Gnom…

I realise you might hate unity, but I just wanted to make clear, some people (me) like it! I've tried plain gnome 3, latest kde, xmonad and xfce, and out of all of them have decided I like unity the best. The combination of: * Press win key + type 'th' gets thunderbird selected, win key + 'ch' gets chrome gives me quick access to all my apps. * I like a dock with fixed icons in fixed positions, so I can open an app,…

dmenu from the suckless tools package can provide some of the 'invoke an application by pressing a meta key and typing its name' functionality you are missing. Not pretty but it works.

Re: Ubuntu Linux Community: Canonical Vows to Maintain Focus

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Post by mhw »

buster wrote: post #12

With Canoncial doing more and more stuff on their own instead of really contributing to the Linux community, i've recently switched back to Debian and without regrets. Thanks, but no thanks, for Unity, Upstart, Mir and whatever else you will come up in the future.

Is there any particular reason you prefer dogmatism to pragmatism in choosing your Linux distribution?
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