What kind of version is v0.1.0.0? First major version? First minor version? Something in between?
It would be so much easier to reason about version numbers if everyone would stick to Semantic Versioning[0].
[0]: http://semver.org/
Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0
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#22Due to the focus on privacy, I think Diaspora makes perfect sense as intranet social network for Companies, Govt, Colleges etc. I would wish Diaspora pivots in this direction
How does diaspora focus on privacy? The whole point of Diaspora was to implement a decentralized Facebook.
Diaspora as it has been, is centralized, and doesn't seem to be anything but a smaller, crappier Facebook.
Friendica does what Diaspora was supposed to do, and well, and can integrate with the Facebook API and download your personal Facebook feed into your Friendica feed.
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#23I have never thought the Diaspora project would succeed, because it's the social network nobody wants. Honestly I think that in the startup community there has been an enormous failure to understand what makes Facebook so popular. The most important features of Facebook are not the wall, and they're not sharing statuses or links. The most important features of Facebook, are: (1) Chat with a strong mobile app- for man…
> Does Diaspora have a strong chat? It doesn't have chat at all.
Diaspora wanted to make an app so that servers can communicate between each others. There are already tons of chat protocols, creating another one would be stupid. diaspora would not host anything, while facebook make both the app and the hosting, and keeps the data.
Facebook also failed to implement some sort of craigslist, which is something that would really serve a big purpose for people in general (advertise for any sort of stuff, jobs, dating, help needed, local announcements...). I don't understand why they don't do that.
> I have never thought the Diaspora project would succeed, because it's the social network nobody wants.
Diaspora was not created to be wanted, diaspora was created so that users can care a little more about their data. Facebook makes people share data that the marketers try to get. People don't really care about those issues, and investors would not fund something like diaspora. So don't talk about investors and users like they're the same people. Currently there are no technology to make people keep the control over their data and use them with something like facebook. If the tech was there and it was as appealing as facebook, it would be used.
Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0
#24I have never thought the Diaspora project would succeed, because it's the social network nobody wants. Honestly I think that in the startup community there has been an enormous failure to understand what makes Facebook so popular. The most important features of Facebook are not the wall, and they're not sharing statuses or links. The most important features of Facebook, are: (1) Chat with a strong mobile app- for man…
I thought the opposite (but I was wrong).
Diaspora is like email or Jabber - one can have an account anywhere and communicate with everyone.
I thought that Diaspora would be attractive for large news portals (those all kind of news portals - from bussiness to gossips). They would be able to create social network, as they used to offer free email accounts. This would be attractive for users since they can communicate with people who prefer other portals.
Apparently it does not work that way, portals place everywhere like buttons or adopt FB comments. Kind of strange since one day Facebook might start charging for that.
Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0
#25What kind of version is v0.1.0.0? First major version? First minor version? Something in between? It would be so much easier to reason about version numbers if everyone would stick to Semantic Versioning[0]. [0]: http://semver.org/
Semver is explicitly ambiguous about versions < 1
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reason Facebook is successful is not because of these features per se, any web dev could implement photos, events, user profile etc. The strength of Facebook is it's user base and the network effect. Everybody's on Facebook because everybody's on Facebook. Now of course, Mark was the first to implement these features well, so that's why he won and by features I mean the stream and photos (events and apps arrived…
It is more truth if it's applied to Twitter. The first versions could be fully implemented in a hackathon and with much less scalability issues.
Wow! A downvote. A sensible person...
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#27Diaspora reminds me of the tragedy of Duke Nukem Forever. Due to Duke Nukem 3D's success, they had too much funding and thus was trying to always incorporate the latest and greatest in game development. Once they were nearing completion, a better engine would be released, and so they would start over from scratch. [0] The original team behind Diaspora only asked for a little bit of money so they could get by while th…
I believe you're referring to this one in Wired from 2009 - "Learn to Let Go: How Success Killed Duke Nukem"
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/fail_duke_nukem/all/
Great article btw.
Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0
#28I have never thought the Diaspora project would succeed, because it's the social network nobody wants. Honestly I think that in the startup community there has been an enormous failure to understand what makes Facebook so popular. The most important features of Facebook are not the wall, and they're not sharing statuses or links. The most important features of Facebook, are: (1) Chat with a strong mobile app- for man…
> Does Diaspora have a strong chat? It doesn't have chat at all. Diaspora wanted to make an app so that servers can communicate between each others. There are already tons of chat protocols, creating another one would be stupid. diaspora would not host anything, while facebook make both the app and the hosting, and keeps the data. Facebook also failed to implement some sort of craigslist, which is something that woul…
> Diaspora was not created to be wanted, diaspora was created so that users can care a little more about their data.
Which is the stupid part of the whole thing. If nobody wants it, that uses can care "a little more" about their data is immaterial because nobody's using it.
"If" the tech was there--who cares about "the tech", really? Privacy nerds aren't numerous enough to drive a social network. If you want people to buy into what is (not what should or should not be, what is) a niche concern, you need to cater to their needs too.
Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0
#29Diaspora reminds me of the tragedy of Duke Nukem Forever. Due to Duke Nukem 3D's success, they had too much funding and thus was trying to always incorporate the latest and greatest in game development. Once they were nearing completion, a better engine would be released, and so they would start over from scratch. [0] The original team behind Diaspora only asked for a little bit of money so they could get by while th…
I believe this is the article which you refer to (http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/fail_duke_nukem/all/).
Quote:
> But because the technology kept getting better, Broussard was on a treadmill. He’d see a new game with a flashy graphics technique and demand the effect be incorporated into Duke Nukem Forever. “One day George started pushing for snow levels,” recalls a developer who worked on Duke Nukem Forever for several years starting in 2000. Why? “He had seen The Thing” — a new game based on the horror movie of the same name, set in the snowbound Antarctic — “and he wanted it.” The staff developed a running joke: If a new title comes out, don’t let George see it. When the influential shoot-’em-up Half-Life debuted in 1998, it opened with a famously interactive narrative sequence in which the player begins his workday in a laboratory, overhearing a coworker’s conversation that slowly sets a mood of dread. The day after Broussard played it, an employee told me, the cofounder walked into the office saying, “Oh my God, we have to have that in Duke Nukem Forever.”
Edit: argh, at-fates-hands beat me to it.
Re: Release of Diaspora v0.1.0.0
#30Due to the focus on privacy, I think Diaspora makes perfect sense as intranet social network for Companies, Govt, Colleges etc. I would wish Diaspora pivots in this direction
How does diaspora focus on privacy? The whole point of Diaspora was to implement a decentralized Facebook. Diaspora as it has been, is centralized, and doesn't seem to be anything but a smaller, crappier Facebook. Friendica does what Diaspora was supposed to do, and well, and can integrate with the Facebook API and download your personal Facebook feed into your Friendica feed.
It does have decentralisation, to an extent.
That's where the pod design comes in.
Friendica also doesn't really fill the gap that effectively, it's slower than Diaspora and doesn't have a nice user experience.
Also, the Facebook integration in Friendica doesn't scale well.
https://github.com/friendica/friendica/wiki/How-to:-Friendic...
The restricting use section alludes to his.
But if you were after a social network that is completely decentralised i.e. no servers, take a look at Nightweb. http://nightweb.net/