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Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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Re: Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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I can quickly tell you why you've had 0 luck finding a co-founder. My background: I am both a web hosting industry veteran, with a successful high-end hosting company under my belt (see http://www.erica.biz/2009/the-end-of-an-era/ for my story)...and my current co-founder and I also did a presentation at SXSW this year on "How to Find the Perfect Co-Founder." You've made 2 classic mistakes here: 1) You haven't starte…

I don't have a credit card, but in the next 90 days, I expect to have access to enough funds to buy server #1. I'll get on a way to sell it in advance.

I had an idea to market a special where I would sell an annual deal on the server for 25-33% off which wouldn't make much money for that year, but would provide enough capital up front to buy another server & expand right off the bat, so I wanted the website to feature that special.

I also wanted the website to feature a permission marketing campaign & collect email addresses of interested parties to go onto a waiting list since our initial server capacity is limited, but I guess I can achieve the same thing with a facebook page with people 'Liking' us & adding our announcements to their news feeds. I saw an interesting social commerce app that allowed for one-click facebook purchasing, that would make the storefront part easy & free of up-front capital.

Thanks again for your reply.

Re: Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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post #5

I've thought about this lately, and think that a trial period would be best, with both parties clear that it is a trial period for each other.

Certainly better than just jumping in. I think launching a tiny project with someone (something that just takes a few days) is probably a good way to test the waters.

Re: Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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post #3

But I know the act of finding a good co-founder is akin to marriage would you marry someone who responded to an ad on some website?

In the interests of Science and defense of this method, I did in fact meet my first wife this way. The problem was that I was simply never around (war, you know), not necessarily that it wasn't a good match.

Re: Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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I took a look at your profile and website and have some thoughts.

First is that your idea is a very specific and specialized. Your co-founder will likely need to spend lots of time just to fully understand the problem and the business case behind it. Then if they are actually interested in tackling that problem and believe a business can be built, it is difficult, requiring lots of time and specialized technical knowledge. Lots of people want to find companies based around classic consumer web application type offerings. Not saying you won't find someone but just saying that it will be difficult. You may be better off going to conferences to network with the right crowd so to speak to find a founder.

Second is that you are based in Syracuse. Personally at the co-founding stage I would want to be able to meet face to face and work with someone in person. I think a lot of people are the same way. The CoFounders Lab site does all of its search based on proximity (not sure about the others). So I think lots of people don't even see your profile, and even if they do they say I don't want to work with someone in Syracuse. Not knocking Syracuse - I really like it personally - but you need to be in one of the startup hubs in my opinion. It also will be helpful in getting other talent and getting connected in the VC world.

Re: Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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I read about your business proposal on the tech co founder sites. Please don't take this personally but you come across as naive and amateurish.

Hosting is a very easy business to get into, unfortunately it's a very difficult business to make money out of. Why will your business compete effectively with something like AWS - which has such enormous scale and brand recognition?

You mention that you've done some work for some famous people. Have you done any of that recently? If you have some rich contacts and you are good at sales then that could be your ticket. If so, you wouldn't need marketing - just get a basic brand site built in wordpress using a contractor on elance - and your requirement for a co founder goes away!

From your business proposal: "I had a 6 figure inheritance which I blew". Why even say that? You just sound like a failire.

And "I've got somewhere between 4 and 5 k to invest in this new enterprise". Somewhere between 4 and 5 k? That makes me think that you think 1k is a lot of money. That's a problem for someone who should be a company founder.

Your business model is weak. You don't have much money to invest. Unless I'm missing something, you should save your money and try to do something that is in some way innovative so that you can compete.

Re: Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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post #3

But I know the act of finding a good co-founder is akin to marriage would you marry someone who responded to an ad on some website?

Yes, but that was only the starting point of years of vetting. 9 years and 3 kids later, I'd say it worked well.

Re: Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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I've thought about this lately, and think that a trial period would be best, with both parties clear that it is a trial period for each other.

I thought about a trial period, as it would be a good way to test & see if we're a good fit in terms of philosophies & approaches to different things.

But then I wondered about what would happen if I ended up deciding I didn't want to work with this person anymore- how would I compensate them for what their contribution was up until the point that I decided to pull the plug on the relationship? How would they know I wasn't just working them to get some contribution out of them with the intent of dumping them in the first place. I certainly wouldn't want any ill-will at the end of our working together, so I'd want a fair way of parting ways somehow, and I couldn't afford to pay for their work until later when the company makes money.

So that solution doesn't seem do-able anymore.

Re: Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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Honestly I find it awkward and unnatural to search for a co-founder. It's comparable to searching for a wife. Well...you kind of need a girlfriend first. Put another way, hire a web developer, which honestly it doesn't even look like you need yet, grow a relationship with that person(s) and work them into a co-founding position if the opportunity presents itself. From reading the info you've posted I'm really confuse…

I haven't put anything on the web because I don't have a web dev. I certainly would like to have something up on the web, but I can't afford to at this stage of the game. I can barely afford the server #1 I need to get off the ground renting. I don't know if that means I need access to more capital but I like to think I can do this without more than $5k.

If I had a web developer onboard with me, I envision there being a permission marketing campaign collecting email addresses of interested parties & delivering relevant content to them in anticipated doses to keep them interested. Being that we only have so many servers to rent & are just starting I would like to see a waiting list implemented, too.

I can do some stuff in plain text on the website, but I think its better off not drawing customers to it while it looks that way because they'll think it looks unprofessional.

Re: Ask HN: What's 'Due Diligence' when vetting co-founders?

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post #13
post #5

I've thought about this lately, and think that a trial period would be best, with both parties clear that it is a trial period for each other.

Certainly better than just jumping in. I think launching a tiny project with someone (something that just takes a few days) is probably a good way to test the waters.

Agreed, I'll consider that for sure. Thanks.
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